Roman Catholics born Selby 1780s - are Baptisms at Stourton?

[BushInn1746]

Hello, I have a George Hood claiming to be of Selby, Yorkshire, born circa 1785 to 1787, married at Selby in 1815 with a Bond.

No entries in the Selby Parish Register for baptism 1781 to 1788 or burial (death 18 September 1845). Marrying with a Bond from the Selby Peculiar Court, suggests possible Dissenter / Non-conformist.

Selby Roman Catholic Church say around the time of George Hood's birth:-
From 1783 Father Edward Leadbitter OP came from Stourton to Selby on alternate Sundays. In 1785 he was appointed to take charge of Selby and this he did until his death in 1788.

Edward Leadbitter's death, mentioning Selby (is on page 30) ...
https://archive.org/stream/obituaries12unknuoft
Edward Leadbitter's alias name was "Burgis"

A search of his name and Burgis brings up a Catholic magazine which says ...

... Driven out of Middleton Hall, Father Antonius Hatton [alias Edward Anthony Hatton] removed the mission to Stourton Lodge, a few miles distant. He began a mission and built a house at Hunslet; and on his death, October 23rd, 1783, was suceeded by Father Edward Leadbitter, known on the mission by the name Burgis.

Because Selby had no R.C. Church building 1780s and meetings were held in the Steward's house of Lord Petre in Ousegate, and Father Leadbitter was visiting Selby on alternate Sundays from Stourton, around the time of George Hood's birth circa 1785 to 1787, could George Hood's baptism be recorded back at Stourton, or any Catholic Church administering Selby?

Thank you

Kind regards, Mark

[clayton bradley]

If no one can answer this, there is a series of books by Michael Gandy, Catholic Missions and Registers 1700-1800, vol 4 North East England. I'm sorry I don't have a copy, but some records may only just be starrting then, if the Lancashire records are anything to go by. Is the family on the 1767 Returns of Papists? good luck, cb

[dobfarm]

Maybe John and George Hood were more deeply involved with the seemly RC religion obsessed big Petre family than you think other than just tenants occupiers of the  RC big Petre family property or part owners in deeds


St Mary’s Catholic Church, Selby
 
St Mary’s Catholic Church, Carlton
 
http://stmarysselby.org.uk/history.htm

(From link above)

" The history of St Mary's goes back to the time before Catholic Emancipation (1829) and the Restoration of the Hierarchy (1850) "

http://maps.nls.uk/view/102344968

From 1851 map in link above

Find Selby, then find Gowthorpe and Brooke Street and find the Tannery just a little West were the present RC St Mary' church now stands


The 1829 Old St Mary RC chapel Selby was on the acute corner of Gowthorpe and Brooke street ------------------later used as a RC school house

The later 1856 bigger St Mary's church?chapel that is still there today was built either at the site of or part of the old Tannery where George Hood operated from in Gowthorpe (See Google maps for the present church location at the top end of Armoury road. (Tannery 1851)

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The earlier late 18 century/early 19th century till or before  1829  RC meeting place was on Ousegate not far from George Hood at Wren lane.

Date and places of RC in Selby seems to always near George Hood's of the RC big Petre family property




 

[jess5athome]

Bookmarking for interest, that's a good link dobfarm, brings lots of memory's back, I attended the RC School in the village of Carlton 

Frank.

[BushInn1746]

Thank you Clayton,

Tried to find a downloadable Return of the Papists 1767, but I shall have to try a Library, or Archive.

Thanks, good spot dobfarm regarding a Tannery, but sorry to say there were two in Gowthorpe, Selby and Hood's 90 pit Tannery with House, Two Cottages, Drying Sheds, Workshop buildings and Engine House was still there in 1865. It was lately occupied by Mrs Hood, with Peter Earl and Michael Rishworth occupying the cottages, [after John Hood's death in 1860 (my 3 x Gt Grandfather), his wife also called Sarah Hood, kept it going for a while].

The Stapleton Family (Catholics) lived at Quosquo Hall, but whether any of my ancestors were Catholics, remains to be seen.

Two of George's sons had Marriage Bonds dated:- 20 Dec 1851 (James Hood) and 5 Dec 1855 (George Hood), possibly due to their Quaker connections.

EDIT:
Online quote (bottom of post) was interesting, because in my Carlton juxta Snaith transcriptions of 1783 ...
"Susannah 2nd dau of John Hinsley of Carlton wheelwright" who was the "son of Thos of Stainforth par; Hatfield wheelwright & Susannah" [Susannah Cockin] who was the "dau of Christopher Cockin of Fishlake, farmer"

There was a Jane Cockin, witness to George Hood's 1815 Marriage at Selby.

Regards Mark

Online Quote
Quosquo Hall. My ancestor John Graves and his wife Susannah (nee Hinsley) lived there along with their children from 1840 approx.

[dobfarm]

The Stapleton Family are Baron Beaumont's of Whitley (Hall) & Wentworth (Hall) Lascelles Hall & Carlton Towers earlier Lord John Beaumont of Stirling Scotland

Basically The Beaumont line stopped having boys and the Beaumont line went to the Stapleton family through the a girl marriage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_Beaumont

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Beaumont

[dobfarm]

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RC in Scotland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholicism_in_Scotland


Coopers of Glasgow T-TH10


 http://www.glasgowfamilyhistory.org.uk/ExploreRecords/Pages/Merchants-Crafts-and-Apprentices.aspx



The cooper- of Selby -Who trained him ?

Enter in Google books search engine

' hood a cooper glasgow  '

There is much more.

https://books.google.co.uk/

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 1127 26. The property of Robert Hood, cooper, 1803.

http://www.happyhaggis.co.uk/lanark-ramshorn.htm

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Scottish Chronicle June 30th 1812

At Glasgow-James Hood, cooper Glasgow to Miss Gramham of Brown Field

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=CBUbAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA566&dq=hood+a+cooper+glasgow&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=hood%20a%20cooper%20glasgow&f=false
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Pigots trade directory Scotland -Glasgow 1837

John Hood & Co Muslin manufacture - Smith Court, Candleriggs Glasgow

Robert Hood Cooper Candleriggs Glasgow

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=0ecNAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA554&dq=hood+a+cooper+glasgow&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=hood%20a%20cooper%20glasgow&f=false

[BushInn1746]

The Stapleton Family are Baron Beaumont's of Whitley (Hall) & Wentworth (Hall) Lascelles Hall & Carlton Towers earlier Lord John Beaumont of Stirling Scotland

Basically The Beaumont line stopped having boys and the Beaumont line went to the Stapleton family through the a girl marriage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_Beaumont

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Beaumont

Hello dobfarm and All

Thanks for the replies, I don't have any document to suggest George Hood came directly from Scotland.

Regarding Quosquo Hall and the Stapleton link, I found another reference in a book about the History of Haddlesey, page 189, also mentioning Miles Stapleton.

https://archive.org/stream/cu31924028137978#page/n221/mode/2up

Regards Mark

[dobfarm]

The Stapleton Family are Baron Beaumont's of Whitley (Hall) & Wentworth (Hall) Lascelles Hall & Carlton Towers earlier Lord John Beaumont of Stirling Scotland

Basically The Beaumont line stopped having boys and the Beaumont line went to the Stapleton family through the a girl marriage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_Beaumont

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Beaumont

Hello dobfarm and All

Thanks for the replies, I don't have any document to suggest George Hood came directly from Scotland.

Regarding Quosquo Hall and the Stapleton link, I found another reference in a book about the History of Haddlesey, page 189, also mentioning Miles Stapleton.

https://archive.org/stream/cu31924028137978#page/n221/mode/2up

Regards Mark

You don't have any document of any place he came from except a Y in a box on the 1841 census to birth county by a census recorder used to putting ~ Dito

What you have is Wren Lane  very skilled trade a Cooper and R Gibson of the same

Coopers named Hood must be of interest first and foremost

There is a Scottish brewer name Hood in Hull

Also on the 1837 trades directory Glasgow is John Hood Wine and spirit merchant