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Re: help with uniform (WWI?)
« Reply #18 on: Friday 08 July 16 22:44 BST (UK) »
Not convinced he's from a mounted Regt. The "crop" might be a baton.
ASC usually had a lanyard over the left shoulder.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
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Re: help with uniform (WWI?)
« Reply #19 on: Friday 08 July 16 22:55 BST (UK) »
There's also this one 18399 Pte. Ralph Barron 7th. & 1st. Border Regt.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: help with uniform (WWI?)
« Reply #20 on: Friday 08 July 16 23:04 BST (UK) »
Not convinced he's from a mounted Regt. The "crop" might be a baton.
ASC usually had a lanyard over the left shoulder.


I'm with jim1 on that, it looks rather thick to be a riding crop, my own thoughts are it's a walking out stick or baton and the "Mount" of the photograph is possibly one which was produced in a large quantity for photographs of soldiers maybe took in studios prior to going off to war.

He also looks to be wearing a post 1915? economy tunic.

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Re: help with uniform (WWI?)
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 09 July 16 01:20 BST (UK) »
Swagger stick? There is not much of whatever it is showing in the photo.

Odd background to be a professional photo - doesn't look to be taken in a studio. What do you think Jim?

It does look like the mount was mass produced and families could just slip a photo of their serviceman behind it.


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Re: help with uniform (WWI?)
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 09 July 16 08:31 BST (UK) »
The stick means nothing. The economy tunic points to 1915/1916, supported by the flags of our WW1 allies less the USA.

The buckle will be standard general issue. So unless the back has an address it really is only useful to confirm Ralph was in the army in 1915/16 when he was in his early 20s.

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Re: help with uniform (WWI?)
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 09 July 16 08:46 BST (UK) »
My family has a photo of Uncle Ralph Barron and we can't seem to find any military information about him on Ancestry. I'm assuming it's more likely to be first world war than second because of the flags but his uniform for me isn't giving anything away so I would just like to share and see if anyone has any ideas.

Sadly all that is written on the back is "Poor Uncle Ralph". We also have no idea why it says that, we don't know if he died in the war or was injured because our research is coming up with nothing.

Anyway any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: help with uniform (WWI?)
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 09 July 16 10:39 BST (UK) »
It is a professionally taken picture possibly at the end of his training period.
The mount is obviously predominantly Naval & the inclusion of the Japanese flag appears to confirm it with the RFC & RA snippets stuck on.
So was this taken at or near a Naval base ?
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: help with uniform (WWI?)
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 09 July 16 10:59 BST (UK) »
It is a professionally taken picture possibly at the end of his training period.
The mount is obviously predominantly Naval & the inclusion of the Japanese flag appears to confirm it with the RFC & RA snippets stuck on.
So was this taken at or near a Naval base ?
     Yes,   or  an Army camp
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Re: help with uniform (WWI?)
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 09 July 16 11:57 BST (UK) »
This is a difficult one....have you found a marriage or death for him?

Could this be him:
Name:
Ralph Barron
Birth Date:
abt 1890
Age:
44
Port of Departure:
Vancouver, British Columbia
Arrival Date:
7 Jun 1934
Port of Arrival:
Liverpool, England
Ship Name:
Harpasa
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Shipping line:
Messrs Henry Tyrer and Company Ltd

Is this his death record:

Name:  Ralph Barron
Birth:  abt 1891
Death:  Jun 1964  - Durham Northern, Durham, England

Could this be his wife:

Name:  Ada Barron
Birth:  abt 1890
Death:  Dec 1964  - Durham Northern, Durham, England

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