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Re: Can 2 children have the same christian name?
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 03 July 16 10:39 BST (UK) »
Jamjar, wow you have been busy, so appreciated.  This part of the Thompson tree I do have, William D(obson) Thompson is my grandfather and I have visited the 1891/1901 & 1911 houses, all still standing, in fact the Balmoral Ave & 255 Rectory Rd are the same house they just changed the name of Balmoral to Rectory as it was a continuation of that road. In fact HE Thompson and his wife lived at 255 Rectory Road (they are upstairs/downstairs terrace houses), my father lived at 253 all his childhood. But the rest of the information is new to me as I haven't broadened out my tree as yet.
Every time you get somewhere it always brings up more questions, with Alfred Thompson his daughter Margaret is at home in the 1901 census, she's 21 but does not appear in the 1891 census when she would only be 11, somewhere else?
Also Elizabeth, 2 daughters called Mary (Mary Ann & Mary Jane), here we go again, however as you state Mary Ann becomes Margaret Ann in 1871 census. Me thinks she was always Margaret and whoever wrote up the 1861 census got confused with names.
Jamjar, once again I do appreciate your valuable help.
Paul

1871 Census

Henry Edward Thompson age 24  no occupation listed
Jane Thompson Wife age 21
Jane E Thompson daughter age 1

Living at Queen St, South Shields

The 1891
   
Henry Thompson 43 Assurance Agent
Jane   Thompson   Wife   41
Jane E daughter Single 21 Confectioners Assistant
Thomas M   son 15 Joiners Apprentice born in Gateshead, Durham
Henretta daughter 13   Scholar born Gateshead
William D son 10 Scholar born Gateshead

Living at Bright Terrace, Gateshead

1901
Henry 53 Insurance Agent
Jane 55
Jane daughter 31 Manageress of barbers shop
Marian daughter 37 Assurance agent
Ellan daughter Assistant confectioner shop

Living Balmoral Ave, Gateshead


1911
Henry Edward 63 Insurance Agent
Jane 61
Jane Ellen daughter 41 single 
Maria daughter 37 single Insurance agent
William son 30 Insurance agent

Living at 255 Rectory Rd, Gateshead
Thompson - Stokesley, Great Ayton, Little Ayton &  Easby Nth Yorkshire. Westoe, South Shields, Gateshead
Dobson - Westoe & South Shields
Jefferson - South Shields
Rippon - Jarrow & South Shields
Purves & Harvey - South Shields

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Re: Can 2 children have the same christian name?
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 03 July 16 10:50 BST (UK) »
I'm quite enjoying myself on this cold and sunless day. It's winter in Oz. I don't have a subscription to Find My Past so am taking advantage of their free census, access offer.

Yes, it is sure to be a mistake re Margaret's name. I didn't put the next census for them up as it is mighty confusing.

Do keep in mind that there is no guarantee that they are all the correct folk. The only way to confirm is by way of certificates purchases.

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Re: Can 2 children have the same christian name?
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 03 July 16 11:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jamjar,
I too am spending a cold and mainly sunless day in Perth Oz!!!!! I have had my wife giving me work to do all day as I depart for the UK and Europe for a holiday tomorrow, hopefully a bit warmer there.
I have a pay as you go with Find my Past which was great as it lasted a year and I have periods when I look at my family history and for months leave it alone (summer is a good example), however my credits ran our recently and on renewing I found that they have changed valid for a year to valid for 90 days, so with going away I haven't renewed it. I have been using family search.org and have obtained quite a bit of info there.
Yes obtaining BMD certificates gets a bit expensive, at least the cost is the same to post them to Oz as it is to the UK, a bonus!!!
Paul


I'm quite enjoying myself on this cold and sunless day. It's winter in Oz. I don't have a subscription to Find My Past so am taking advantage of their free census, access offer.

Yes, it is sure to be a mistake re Margaret's name. I didn't put the next census for them up as it is mighty confusing.

Do keep in mind that there is no guarantee that they are all the correct folk. The only way to confirm is by way of certificates purchases.

Jamjar
Thompson - Stokesley, Great Ayton, Little Ayton &  Easby Nth Yorkshire. Westoe, South Shields, Gateshead
Dobson - Westoe & South Shields
Jefferson - South Shields
Rippon - Jarrow & South Shields
Purves & Harvey - South Shields

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Re: Can 2 children have the same christian name?
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 03 July 16 11:11 BST (UK) »
I'm in Central West NSW. I thought it was always warm over your side of the world.  ;)

Not sure the UK will be that much warmer that WA.

All branches of my tree got to the dead end stage a few years back. I miss the seek and search aspect of it. I'm currently on Uni hols so have this month to dabble on this site.

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Re: Can 2 children have the same christian name?
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 03 July 16 11:26 BST (UK) »
Here is the very odd one:
1891 has John and Elizabeth Paul as per other census'.

Then: Frederick Paul grandson aged 8.
Edward Surtees son-in-law aged 29  general labourer
Margaret Ann GRINTERS daughter 29
Elizabeth GRINTERS granddaughter 2

I viewed the page and GRINTERS isn't on it, so it's a mistake on the transcription. However, the age 29 is there and Margaret certainly is older than 29. I checked if there was a marriage between Edward Surtees and Margaret Ann and there is. Also, on a later census Edward and Mary have Frederick Paul as there son.

So the question to be asked is, who is the daughter Margaret McKie and where are the McKie children. If Mr McKie had died wouldn't Margaret remarry as McKie and not Paul?

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Re: Can 2 children have the same christian name?
« Reply #32 on: Friday 07 October 16 04:53 BST (UK) »
Here is the very odd one:
1891 has John and Elizabeth Paul as per other census'.

Then: Frederick Paul grandson aged 8.
Edward Surtees son-in-law aged 29  general labourer
Margaret Ann GRINTERS daughter 29
Elizabeth GRINTERS granddaughter 2

I viewed the page and GRINTERS isn't on it, so it's a mistake on the transcription. However, the age 29 is there and Margaret certainly is older than 29. I checked if there was a marriage between Edward Surtees and Margaret Ann and there is. Also, on a later census Edward and Mary have Frederick Paul as there son.

So the question to be asked is, who is the daughter Margaret McKie and where are the McKie children. If Mr McKie had died wouldn't Margaret remarry as McKie and not Paul?

Jamjar

Hi Jamjar, apologies for the delay in replying to thank you for your detective work, I went overseas that evening and did not see your last correspondence until my return recently. Having gone as far back with direct descendants without entering into the 'possibilities' league I am now starting on Great Aunts/Uncles and working my way backwards so your help will be stored until I get to them. Bloody cold weather here in Perth for this time of year, hope your area of NSW is warmer. Thanks again for all your assistance.
Paul
Thompson - Stokesley, Great Ayton, Little Ayton &  Easby Nth Yorkshire. Westoe, South Shields, Gateshead
Dobson - Westoe & South Shields
Jefferson - South Shields
Rippon - Jarrow & South Shields
Purves & Harvey - South Shields

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Re: Can 2 children have the same christian name?
« Reply #33 on: Friday 07 October 16 06:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Paul

It certainly has been a long time. I hope you enjoyed your time overseas.

We have had 2 warm days this Spring, but more cold is on it's way. The weather has been dreadful this year, with our village flooding 4 times thanks to nearly 700ml of rain.

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