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Re: Death of Ellen J Whale Ontario
« Reply #45 on: Sunday 03 July 16 13:03 BST (UK) »
If we had the exact birth date for Ethel nee Beare Ryan, it might help ?

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Re: Death of Ellen J Whale Ontario
« Reply #47 on: Sunday 03 July 16 16:18 BST (UK) »
Thanks for putting the links *Sandra*.

If we had the exact birth date for Ethel nee Beare Ryan, it might help ?

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It is possible that Ethel was born Jan 1886. Edwin Ryan was her 2nd husband.
Did Ethel travel with her son when he visited Canada and when did he return?
Still hunting for and not finding Ellen Whale

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Re: Death of Ellen J Whale Ontario
« Reply #48 on: Sunday 03 July 16 16:35 BST (UK) »
Birth date for Ethel needs to be exact to try and find a match on the USA SSDI.

There was no definite border crossing to show William or his parents - there were loads of places where they could cross the border and not all were recorded unfortunately.

Could try the RAOGK volunteer in Winnipeg

http://www.raogk.org/lookups/region/manitoba/

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Re: Death of Ellen J Whale Ontario
« Reply #49 on: Sunday 03 July 16 16:52 BST (UK) »
Birth date for Ethel needs to be exact to try and find a match on the USA SSDI

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Cornwall OPC has Ethel born on the 14th January 1886 and baptised on the 12 May 1886.
Added:An old post has an Ethel in the Ohio death index 1970 with a birth year of 1886 dying in the same hospital as an Edwin Ryan. Cuyahoga,Ohio.

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Re: Death of Ellen J Whale Ontario
« Reply #50 on: Sunday 03 July 16 17:16 BST (UK) »
Yes, I was puzzled, wondering if you had discounted that one for some reason  ???

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Re: Death of Ellen J Whale Ontario
« Reply #51 on: Sunday 03 July 16 17:32 BST (UK) »
Yes, I was puzzled, wondering if you had discounted that one for some reason  ???

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I was hoping to find an obituary for that Ethel Ryan to make sure that she was the person that I was looking for. There aren't any parents on the marriage certificate for Ethel and Edwin Ryan.
The only link that I have with the Ohio Ethel is that she married Edwin in Houston,Texas and was a Beare. (surname spelt differently on certificate)  My Ethel was divorced from Thomas Yelland and was living in Houston Texas during her divorce. That is where the divorce papers were sent to.
Added: Findmypast has an Ethel Ryan birth 1886 death 23 July 1970. May be somebody can find an obit around that date.

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Re: Death of Ellen J Whale Ontario
« Reply #52 on: Sunday 03 July 16 18:45 BST (UK) »
Prior to 1976, Cleveland Public Library clipped death notices from the local newspapers and maintained a file of notices known as the Cleveland Necrology File. The Library later converted this file to a full-text database, which can be accessed free-of-charge by anyone with Internet access: The Cleveland Necrology File. The database permits searching by name (last name/first name or last name only) or by keyword. Using the keyword search, you can search for combinations of names and words (such as addresses or funeral home names) that may have appeared in a death notice.

To determine if an obituary article (news obituary) on the person you are researching appeared in the newspaper prior to 1976, please email the Library’s Center for Local & Global History at clgh@cpl.org for additional research. Provide the full name of the deceased and birth and death dates (or years) as known. 

Since that obituary/death notice was not published on the index, it doesn't look as if there was a death notice.

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Re: Death of Ellen J Whale Ontario
« Reply #53 on: Sunday 03 July 16 18:59 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the information *Sandra*.
It seems that I won't be finding Ellen J Whale's death date or notice in Canada or Ethel in the USA.