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Offline Grace01

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« on: Tuesday 28 June 16 16:17 BST (UK) »
Looking for the burial record of Robert johnston robinson
Born 9 April 1916 in Drumahiskey Ballymoney
Died 8 February 1917 in Drumahiskey Ballymoney at 10 months old

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Re: burial record
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 28 June 16 16:40 BST (UK) »
Where did the family attend church? possibly buried there or Parish (Church of Ireland ground) although Ballymoney Cemetery is also likely. Church of Ireland will have a burial register, Cemetery keeps records (gatehouse is at entrance to cemetery) but if Presbyterian or other religion there are unlikely to be burial records.
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Re: burial record
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 06 July 16 22:48 BST (UK) »
keeping Aghadoweys reply in mind the whole time, heres my effort
Drumahiskey in the civil parish of Ballymoney,  Drumahiskey local registrar is Ballymoney The electoral district is Enagh, and its in the barony of  Upper dunluce.

 I tried searching for Robert Johnston Robinson b 1916, d 1917. as any of the following:-birth ie registrar, baptism ie a church record, a death registrar, and a burial notice. obituary,  or burial record or tombstone.

Robert is not listed in Births/ Death/Burial records in www.ancestryireland.com/
Robert is not listed in Births/ Death/Burial records in www.emeraldancestors.com/
Robert is not listed in Births/ Death/Burial records in https://familysearch.org/search

Births  unexamined   
There are a few record church records  available https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/sites/default/files/publications/Guide_to_church_records.pdf
available at PRONI in microfilm etc sometimes more at the church.
Methodist. Ballymoney [in Coleraine Circuit]
Baptisms, 1831-1987
P.Presbyterian. 1st Ballymoney
Baptisms, 1751-71, with gaps, and 1817-1926
P. P.Presbyterian St James’ or 2nd Ballymoney
[After 1840 known as 3rd Ballymoney]
Baptisms, 1835-1940
P. P.Presbyterian Garryduff
Baptisms, 1885-1985;
R.P. Reformed Presbyterian Ballymoney (and Dervock)
register containing session reports,1914-81, that record deaths and births/baptisms, 1914-75,and admissions,1914-75, with lists of members (the earliest ones recording details of deaths and emigration),1914-88
note the existing St Patrick’s Church of Ireland  has a website  on this link you will find the rector and  his email  listed see http://www.stpatricksballymoney.com/page7.html

if you cant find the baptism Roberts parents should be identifiable in the 1911 census however that is very difficult. The reason is in 1901 there are 16 males, in 1911 males just 5, of these only one is not old.  the most likely Robinson is a boarder,  one Francis Robinson ,Church of Ireland aged 16 ie b~ 18 living with Margory Darens at 1 in Ballybrakes, Urban (Ballymoney, Antrim) note the existing St Patrick’s Church of Ireland  Ballymoney has a website link you will find the rector and  his email  listed see http://www.stpatricksballymoney.com/page7.html

Howeverthere are some 16 Robinson males in 1901 census who leave by 1911 so i may be ignoring the 1901 census too much if one of the 1901 Robinson came back to marry!

If you already know the first name of his father or mother do search the census yourself.   heres the background to that Robinson in Ballybrake

1901 census 1 in Ballybrakes, Urban (Ballymoney, Antrim)
in case they continue to be of interest
Darcus     Charles 55 b Co Antrim Church of Ireland Farmer m Margaret  XXXXXX  46 b Mayflax, Scotland  Church of Ireland      
children all orphans I have sorted them by surname
Dunvar   James   11      Orphant   Church of Ireland   Co Tyrone   
Ellwood   Harry   8      Orphant   Church of Ireland   Co Antrim   
Robinson   Francis 6      Orphant   Church of Ireland   Co Antrim
Robinson   John   13      Orphant   Church of Ireland   Co Limerick   
Robinson   William 9      Orphant   Church of Ireland   Co Limerck
Shennan   Varman 1      Orphant   Church of Ireland   Co Antrim
Shennan   William 2      Orphant   Church of Ireland   Co Antrim   
Shennan   Walter         Orphant   Church of Ireland   Co Antrim

so did all Robinsons come from Co Limerick or are they different family orphans   

1861   going back to Griffiths valuation   see www.askaboutireland.com
Drumahiskey  had the following homesteads listed ie no robinson
BARR
BOYD
BROWNLOW
BURNSIDE
CALDWELL
DEEN
DUNLOP
HENRY
LILLY
MCALEESE
MCCLELLAND
MCCOY
MOORE
O'HARA
PERRY
POLLOCK

1861  Ballymoney Griffiths Valuation
the Robinsons lived in these homesteada
Robinson   Martha   Carnany Lower   Ballymoney
Robinson   Rachel      Castle Street,Ballymoney   Ballymoney
Robinson   William   Church Street,Ballymoney   Ballymoney
Robinson   Neal      Culdoo Lower   Ballymoney
Robinson   John      Main Street,Ballymoney   Ballymoney
Robinson   John      Market Street,Ballymoney   Ballymoney
Robinson   Margaret   New Buildings South   Ballymoney
Robinson   Neal      New Buildings South   Ballymoney
Robinson   Robert      New Buildings South   Ballymoney
Robinson   William   New Buildings South   Ballymoney
Robinson   Thomas   Newhill   Ballymoney
Robinson   Thomas   Townparks   Ballymoney

 
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Re: burial record
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 06 July 16 22:52 BST (UK) »
i forgot to add there were 4 Robinson homesteads  in limerick 1850 see Griffiths Valuation what do you thinkabout all these strands?
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Re: burial record
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 06 July 16 23:19 BST (UK) »
I'm a bit confused by the last few replies but there is certainly a birth registration for a Robert Robinson 9 April 1916 Ballymoney district (Ballymoney sub-district)- mother's maiden name Romain.

Parents Samuel George Robinson & Alphonsine Eugenie Romain married 4 July 1903 Ballymoney dist.
Other children-
Alfred George 29 May 1904
Samuel Charles 22 Aug.1905
Netta Elizabeth 30 Mar.1909
William John 10 Mar.1911
Jack 26 Dec.1913

The family are shown as Church of Ireland in 1911- note Samuel born in England so any of the Robinson details posted are unlikely to be connected.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Enagh/Greenville/126244

Therefore, the first 2 places to check for are Ballymoney Church of Ireland and Ballymoney Cemetery.
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Re: burial record
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 July 16 08:47 BST (UK) »
Aghadowey, its no wonder you are a Rootschat Honorary. I feel used and stupid.  I misjudged the request. No wonder you politely say confused!  I learn much from your last  paragraph ‘Or is this actually you’ I shall continue trying my way of solving family queries, but read the query cautiously.  Grace01 you knew so much more than your simple request that could have saved my time, so please on this occasion do not thank me in any way for trying.   Good bye
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Re: burial record
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 07 July 16 12:25 BST (UK) »
No harm done- I just have the advantage of being in the area ;)

Unfortunately the poster didn't respond to my question and suggestions a few days ago although they have been online since. Certainly full details at the start would have made this much easier  :-\

There's no sign of the Robinsons in 1909-1920 Valuation Revision Books so they either didn't live there, didn't stay long or were living with someone else there 1916/1917.
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Re: burial record
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 10 July 16 20:05 BST (UK) »
Many thanks will try the Ballymoney Church of Ireland and Ballymoney Cemetery for records