Help finding uk ancestors

[xavierdebrito]

Hi to all, i´m asking for the help of this forum, cause i´m searching for my ancestors, and i´ve found that he came as a kind of financial advisor for the potuguese kingdom, i ´ve foud several documents, about him and his wife, but I can only accsess to partial documents.

Here in Portugal, most part of the records are free to search, and what i find from the uk files all are paid?!

Could anyone help me please, I´m sorry about my english.

What have found:

Guilherme Candido Xavier de Brito, around 1851 arrived to England with about 40y (Census 1851)
                                                    1861-Census still single.
                                                    1871-Census Married with Ellen Brunt
                                                    1892-Died at Sussex Brighton

They ´ve married at Marylebone DEC 1876
Ellen Brunt born at Cheshunt,Hertfordshire, in c.1831.

Hoping to have some help.
Best regards
Alberto Xavier de Brito

[lizdb]

I think you are going to have to pay out at some point!

Getting a copy of the marriage cert (£9-25, posted anywhere in the world) from www.gro.gov.uk would hopefully give you a father's name for him.

The ref you need is 11a 1156


Then you will be more in a position to search the Portuguese records for his birth.

As for Ellen - If she was born 1831 but married in 1876, I wonder if she had been married before? If so, again the marriage cert will help, as it should say if she were widowed and again give her fathers name.

[dawnsh]

Hi Alberto

Looking at the reference number for his marriage December quarter 1876 Marylebone 1a 1156, 1156 is near the last number in the page sequence (1176) so he will have married at the end of the year and the last numbers are used for register offices not churches.

Under the systems we have here, register office marriages are held by the register offices, whereas church records are sent to the archives after a period of time.

To find more information about his father and Ellen, you will have to buy the certificate from www.gro.gov.uk as above.

There are 2 references here about his will and the estate of his widow which mentions a nephew

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/all-notices/notice?text=Candido+Xavier+de+Brito&service=all-notices

There are 3 references here

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=Candido+Xavier+de+Brito

which you can pay to see but maybe full of legal jargon you may not understand

[xavierdebrito]

I thank you all, for the quick answers. I´m sorry for my English. And if you ever need some help from the portuguese archives please feel free to ask.

Best regards from Portugal

Alberto

[avm228]

Ellen's nephew Cyrus Fordham was granted administration of her estate in December 1905.

However, Cyrus died in February 1906 before completing the administration of the estate.  Administration of Ellen's estate was then (in March 1906) granted to Fanny Fordham (spinster),who appears to have been a sister of Cyrus.

[avm228]

The mother of Cyrus and Fanny Fordham was Maria nee Rees, born in Cheshunt, daughter of John and Frances.

She is recorded as having been born 18 May 1824 and baptised at Cheshunt on 24 February 1828 together with siblings including a sister Ellen, born 28 January 1827.

[lizdb]

Marriage

April/May/Jun 1846
St Luke
2  320

has Ellen Rees and William Brunt on same page

Could well be her first marriage

[avm228]

Yes, that is her first marriage.

Ellen Rees married William Brunt at St Luke's, Old St, Middlesex on 28 June 1846.

They had only one child, a son William Henry Brunt, on 13 May 1847 who died aged 3 in August 1850.

The 1851 census shows Ellen as "Rees", "unmarried", with her parents in Rotherhithe: HO107/1583/339/45.  This suggests that her marriage had already broken down.

Ellen and William Brunt were divorced in 1864 (decree absolute dated 12 July 1864) on the grounds of William's separation from Ellen and adultery with one Jane Whisson Bill, with whom he was cohabiting at the "Canning's Head" public house.

William went on shortly afterwards (26 September 1864) to marry Jane Bill, whose middle name Whisson was overwritten as Gratton in the register.  Their son William Charles Harry Brunt was born just a couple of months later, on 28 November 1864.

William Brunt died at the "Canning's Head" on 6 August 1872, aged 50.

[louisa maud]

1891 RG12//5 FOLIO 67 PAGE 10
162 Sutherland Avenue Paddington
Guilherme aged 80 living on own means born Portugal
Ellen aged 60 born Cheshunt Herts
PLUS Valet and a servant

Louisa Maud