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Re: Help please with missing word: a rather ---- edition of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 18 June 16 22:11 BST (UK) »
Used to be used a lot colloquially to indicate something was good - well, more than good.  An indication of excellence.  As GR2 says, it is listed in Chambers dictionary - and also features in one of the songs from the Wizard of Oz.  All together now:  "We're off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of Oz...... "   ;D
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Re: Help please with missing word: a rather ---- edition of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 18 June 16 23:00 BST (UK) »
"Wizard", meaning really good goes back at least as far as World War 1, when it was common aviator slang.

It even made it as far as the Star Wars films (apparently).

Episode I. Kitster Banai remarks that Anakin's inclusion in the Boonta Eve Podrace is "wizard, Annie."

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Re: Help please with missing word: a rather ---- edition of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 19 June 16 00:01 BST (UK) »
Wizard?  In that context what would it mean?  Why would anyone abbreviate it?

It was British slang used around the 1940s - wiz or whiz meaning superb; excellent; wonderful.

Oh.  Well, maybe that's it then.  It still doesn't make much sense to me, though.  Why would someone describe an edition of a book as 'wizard' as opposed to 'inexpensive' or 'a rare first edition' or 'an especially well illustrated edition' or 'a leather bound edition.'  Wizard sounds like it means clever.
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Re: Help please with missing word: a rather ---- edition of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 19 June 16 00:33 BST (UK) »
Sorry folks but I thought the missing word was "wiry"  ???

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Re: Help please with missing word: a rather ---- edition of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 19 June 16 01:03 BST (UK) »
That wouldn't make any sense though would it?
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Re: Help please with missing word: a rather ---- edition of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 19 June 16 01:40 BST (UK) »
Groom,

Could do (make sense), depending on how the writer perceived the word herself & the meaning  ???

Wiry...."thin but strong, and often able to bend easily" which may relate to the binding of the book  ???

Writer may have used that word in conjunction with the book itself rather than relating to "of people and animals" (from online dictionary)  ???

I am unsure who Omar Khayyam was  ::)
A "Go ogle" search left me confused ;D

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Re: Help please with missing word: a rather ---- edition of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 19 June 16 08:27 BST (UK) »
Omar Khayyam was an 11th century poet, mathematician and philosopher, and the poems which appear in 'The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam' are attributed to him.  The poems (or quatrains, to be more precise) were originally written in Persian, and the most popular translations into English were those by Edward Fitzgerald which date from the late 19th century.

'Omar Khayyam' was a popular book during the first half of the 20th century,  and to acquire one during WW2 was obviously worth recording;   it may well be that BB's mother found her edition in a second-hand bookshop, rather than buying it new.

I can't see any circumstance where one would buy a volume of poetry and simply record that the book was 'wiry'.   That would be like buying a diamond ring, and merely recording details of the box it came in.
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Re: Help please with missing word: a rather ---- edition of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 19 June 16 08:33 BST (UK) »
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Re: Help please with missing word: a rather ---- edition of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 19 June 16 23:24 BST (UK) »
Very interesting and enlightening comments.  Thank you all very much.  In the same diary, I am stumped by the two symbols at the end of sentence 3 after the word "virgin".  Any suggestions please?   
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