Joseph Thorley

[Kylie Mal]

Long shot here...but would anyone be researching Joseph Thorley in Dilhorne....father of Elizabeth b 1825(she married John Harrison in 1845) ...Joseph was a collier and lived in Boundary? Dilhorne...I thought I had the right one but have just realised there were 2 Josephs married to Ann...other one lived in Cheadle :...Guess which one I had been researching

[trish1120]

Have you found Joseph 1841 Census?
Or Elizabeth c 1825?


There is this Burial;
JOSEPH Thorley, 09 Feb 1835, All Saints, Dillhorne, age 48, abode Boundary
(FreeREG)

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[trish1120]

So for the process of elimination this is that Family;
After Joseph dies;
George Day, 55
Ann Day, 40
Joseph Thorley, 19
Thomas Thorley, 9
John Thorley, 7
Thomas Fowell, 40
Living in Cheadle

So appears to be the Joseph who married Ann LOVATT 1818 Cheadle (FreeREG)

[Kylie Mal]

Yes I think that is the one I am chasing ....not the one who died in 1849. Wish they had different spouse names but lol .... I reread Elizabeths marriage details 2 nights ago and nearly cried when I realised that I have probably been chasing wrong one for the last couple years 

And that Ann(who marries George Day) her marriage says her father is John Gallimore but I can find no marriage for her and Joseph

[Kylie Mal]

Elizabeth is my GGG grandmother .... so frustrating trying to do it from other side of world and just hoping I was on right track

[trish1120]

Very confusing, leave it with me and I will see what Else I can find. Sat Night here so a few things to do. Will get back to it later.

Who were the Witnesses at Elizabeths Marriage?

In the meantime someone else may be able to help.

[Kylie Mal]

I think Thomas Clough jnr ...other I cant decipher.John went on to become quite a succesful fruiterer/potato merchant looking at his will with a multitude of houses (over 50)that he divided between his kids...and one of their daughters ...Annie married Thomas Morris of the Anchor works(his father had the Regent works)

[trish1120]

Cheadle Christenings;
CLARA, 7 Oct 1821
JEMIMA,  4 March 1827
BENJAMIN, 27 September 1829
SAMSON, 28 June 1831,  2 July 1831, buried 02 Jul 1831 age 3 days
CAROLINE, 16 March 1834
JOSEPH, 1 Nov 1835
SILAS, 11 March 1838
Parents JOSEPH/ANN/e
Earlier Children Joseph is a Labourer, Abode Commonside
Later ones Four Lane End, Occp Farmer
Then we have;
ANNE, 14 Feb 1841, to JOSEPH/ALICE, Fathers Occp Farmer, abode Common Side

ANNE Thorley buried 11 May 1838, age 43, Wife of JOSEPH


So this appears to be that Joseph in Cheadle, remarried


1841 Census
HO107/1006/Civil Parish/Cheadle
Joseph Thorley, 40
Alice Thorley, 35
Clarice Thorley, 20
Benjamin Thorley 13
Caroline Thorley, 8
Joseph Thorley, 5
Cilies Thorley, 3
Ann Thorley, 4 mths

FreeBMD Marriage Reg June 1840, Alice HASSALL likely Spouse

[trish1120]

Even more confusing but the one who marries George Day may have been HANNAH and known as Ann;

"And that Ann(who marries George Day) her marriage says her father is John Gallimore but I can find no marriage for her and Joseph"

Marriage;
4 November 1811
Fulford, Stafford, England
Joseph THORLEY and Hannah GALLIMORE**
(F/S.Org)

YES looks good;
Cheadle Baptisms on FreeREG;
MARY, 17 Sept 1812, Parents JOSEPH/ANN nee GALLIMORE
EMMA, 10 Oct 1819 Joseph/Anne

So married 1811;
Children;
Mary 1812
Emma 1819
Clara 1821
Jemima 1827
Benjamin 1829
Samson 1831, died 1831
Caroline 1834
Joseph 1835
Silas 1838

Now we have a gap 1813-1818 and 1822-1827

Now as your Elizabeth has her Father as Joseph, Occp Collier on her M/C I dont think this is her Parents.

Now I will look at the other Joseph/Ann