1939 National Register - Annotations and Cross References

[Guy Etchells]

Re: point 5, you can see the page, at the right of the screen is an arrow, use that arrow, to advance one page and at the bottom of that screen is a number showing how many images are in the set. The amendments are usually on the last or the last but one page. Either jump to the last or last but one number or use the right hand arrow to scroll through.

OK.  Working now, by searching on the address. I can see all 22 pages in this set of images. The last page 22 has the duplicate with some missing information , and the reference to "See page 14" is to the original record.  So when I do a person search it only shows the 2 relevant page images (14 and 22) as a subset. I now understand how it works but no further forward in terms of additional information on Richard Davies nor why he had a duplicated record added at the end of Register.

Thanks for all your contributions.

Chris

The differences could be on the right hand page that we cannot see. It could be medical information
Cheers
Guy

[ScouseBoy]

If they weren't on the Register, then they didn't get a National Identity card, and no Ration Book.

I think you'll find they were on the Register!

If  they were not at the address on the night or in the morning  then they were not to be entered on the forms.

Merchant Navy personnel   had Merchant Navy Identity cards.

[UncleTerry]

I get that if they were away at sea they weren't on the register, but what happened when they came home, they needed i.d. cards and ration books ? I am looking at several men who aren't on the register but their families are. Where did they register ?

[dawnsh]

There were later registers that have not been made available for digitisation and transcription

see 6.2

https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/1939-register/

[UncleTerry]

That's very interesting Dawnsh, but where can we see them - National Archives? Not sure what the 6.2 in your reply means.

Terry

[UncleTerry]

I see what the 6.2 means now (sorry not the sharpest knife today) Reading that guide gives the impression that the 1939 register was carried out in England & Wales, does this mean that a separate exercise was carried out in Scotland, Northern Ireland, Isle of Man, Channel Islands etc.

[dawnsh]

Yes, there were regional registers.

Scotlands People is working on the Scottish one, it will be available soon.

The registers are not at Kew.

They were used by the NHS after 1948 until 1991 and formed the basis of their records systems.

They are held by the NHS, see 5 in the link.

[UncleTerry]

Dawnsh, Thank you for your interesting replies re 1939 register. Perhaps you can clarify somethings for me. The redacted entries, why? Can they be uncovered if the subject is dead? I notice that all entries are on the left page, what is on the opposite page ?  I don't live in Liverpool but was there last week and I learned from a number of people that there is still much to be digitised, particularly that referring to seaman. Regarding to parts of the register used and held by NHS, has that been digitised, can it be accessed? Also those entries of military and seamen, which I will assume will included those civilians on war duties. Is there an informal authorative guide I can see?
Best wishes,
Terry

[dawnsh]

Please refer back to the link to the National Archives 1939 register

See all sections under 9

In a nutshell, there is a rolling 100 year rule so those born before 1921 are automatically opened.

Early in 2023, all the births for 2022 will be opened.

Where you can provide proof of death with a certificate and the address in 1939, closed records will be opened if the details match.

All those marked as deceased by 1991 by the NHS are automatically opened.

No, you can't view the registers, they are held by the NHS.

You can pay to have records searched for deceased and living people

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/PaidSearch/FOI1939Register

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/paidsearch/DSA1939Register

In the majority of cases, the right hand page can be mainly blank but some have details such as ARP wardens, ambulance drivers and other war work, outside of the military