Russian marriage certificate and Kazakstan birth record

[vhb]

How can I get a marriage record from Russia?
And a Birth certificate from Kazakhstan (Russia back then)

Is there a database  to know if they even exist? (May even have been destroyed during war)

Can someone find out without the need of an investigator?

[vhb]

I realize I wrote Kazakstan but it should be UZBEKISTAN (TASHKENT)

[Ruskie]

No idea, but it would probably be a starting point if you knew the place/town of birth and place of marriage.

Presumably the next step would be seeing if there are archives for the area and trying to make contact .... It may depend on dates of events as to if and what was recorded and if anything survives.

Google should help but language will undoubtedly be an issue unless you have some understanding of it.

Good luck. 

Added: I had a look at some of the past threads here on rootschat and found this:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=600813.msg4504101#msg4504101
(I have no idea of the service or reliability of this person but you may wish to contact them - there are some fairly hefty costs are involved)

[vhb]

Huh, never got a notification about this comment.. Will check it out

[vhb]

I feel like I'm making microscopic progress, but maybe someone can shed some light.

I'm still looking for a way to get the marriage record of my great grandparents.

They married in Moscow, Russia, November 5th. 1906.

their names and birth data:
Jakob Huber 25-February-1878, Rosenheim, Germany
Sophie (nee Zehle) 09-November-1884, Moscow, Russia.

The tiny new piece of information is this:
Theodor Zehle (Теодор Целе) lived in Moscow. <-- this would be Sophie's father.
*In 1911 "All Moscow" directory he is listed residing at Novoslobodskaya Street, Samarin's house, draftsman.
*In 1897 he is listed at Saltykovsky [lane], Rudakov's house, metal workshops.

I don't even know if those two addresses are close by each other, maybe these are two different Theodors,

I know Jakob was catholic and Sophie was Lutheran (evangelical),
my grandfather was registered in a Lutheran church (in Uzbekistan), so I'm inclined to think that Sophie and Jakob would be married under that same religion..

The only thing I can think of, is maybe there is some sort of directory dated around 1906 where you can see if there was any Lutheran church in the vecinity of those streets?

[Ruskie]

Sorry I have no idea where to suggest that you go from here.

A contemporary map of the area where the Zehles lived may show a local Lutheran Church, however they may have travelled further afield to marry in a church aligned with their denomination, or in a bigger or better church than their local one.....

But what you say is true, you have no way of knowing if these are the correct Zehle family without some extra proof. How common was the surname?

Do you know that Sophie's father was called Theodor?

[Ruskie]

The locations:
http://www.mapofmoscow.net/streets/novoslobodskaya-street/23/
http://www.mapofmoscow.net/streets/saltykovskaya-street/

Opposite sides of the city centre it seems ....

[vhb]

Yes, I'm 100% sure about the name Theodor.

Her parents full names:
Adolf Theodor Zehle
Emilie Caroline Reichenau

SOPHIE HUBER was born on November 9, 1884, in Moscow Oblast, Russia.
Then in 1889 her brother (also Theodor) was born in Berlin.

I have no idea how common was or is the surname Zehle. I know both parents (Theodor Zehle and Emilie Reichenau) were born in Germany, so maybe Zehle is not that common in Russia to begin with.. (Fingers crossed).

And about the streets and the churches, I guess is the only idea I can think of, about using that information. Unfortunately I know exactly 0 Russian, and I don't even know where to look!

[Ruskie]

Zehle does sound like a German name, which explains why they married in a Lutheran church.

If you know the date and place of Sophie and Jakob's marriage, and their parent's names, is there anything more you hope to glean from their marriage certificate/record?

It seems likely that the Theodor you found in the directories, may be Theodor, father of Sophie.

May I ask you where you found the directories? Do you know if there are directories for cities other than Moscow?