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Re: Ship Montmorency
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 04 June 16 05:11 BST (UK) »
I just put on my special specs.  ;D  ;D

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Re: Ship Montmorency
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 04 June 16 05:25 BST (UK) »
 :P :P :P ;)

The Petone Settlers Museum database is in error.

Comparing the passenger list of the Montmorency published in the Wellington Independent on 17 April 1858, Page 3 (see Minniehaha's link to it above) I see from a random sample that passengers MALLOCK, BISHOP, MOONEY/MOORNEY, KITSON and RUSTON all appear in the Petone Settlers Museum database under a spurious 1858 voyage of the Montrose.

I will approach the Petone Settlers Museum to ask for a correction.

Can anyone find any records of the Montrose or any of its voyages to New Zealand other than that in 1882?

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STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
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Re: Ship Montmorency
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 04 June 16 05:49 BST (UK) »
Quote from: minniehaha on Saturday 04 June 16 05:11 BST (UK)
I just put on my special specs.  ;D  ;D

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Obviously not from Spec Savers then ;D  May be I need a special pair on my next visit ;D


Cheers
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Re: Ship Montmorency
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 04 June 16 06:17 BST (UK) »
Quote from: spades on Saturday 04 June 16 05:04 BST (UK)
and from information contributed by family/descendants, so its possible to find real gems amongst the data.

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That's the bit which can be unreliable ;) or illuminating.

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Re: Ship Montmorency
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 04 June 16 06:32 BST (UK) »
Quote from: kiwihalfpint on Saturday 04 June 16 05:49 BST (UK)
Quote from: minniehaha on Saturday 04 June 16 05:11 BST (UK)
I just put on my special specs.  ;D  ;D

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Obviously not from Spec Savers then ;D  May be I need a special pair on my next visit ;D


Cheers
KHP

I suspect it might have been OPSM

Cheers Janette

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Re: Ship Montmorency
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 04 June 16 09:13 BST (UK) »
Re reply #10.......

An account of the first (?) voyage of theMontrose to New Zealand in 1882.

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=ESD18820508.2.29&srpos=24&e=--1882--05-1882--10--21----0montrose+shipping-ARTICLE-

A barque, she was built in 1863.

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Ship Montmorency
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 05 June 16 21:07 BST (UK) »
Just back from a weekend away so just getting to go through this thread and thanks to all who contributed - much appreciated. ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Ship Montmorency
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 05 June 16 21:16 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Gortinanima on Sunday 05 June 16 21:07 BST (UK)
Just back from a weekend away so just getting to go through this thread and thanks to all who contributed - much appreciated. ;D ;D ;D

So, do delighted that a link was found for a passenger list ;D ;D

You folks are amazing!

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Re: Ship Montmorency
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 25 June 16 00:24 BST (UK) »
I have compared the passenger list of the Montmorency with the Petone Settlers Museum listing for the Montrose, and found 61 passengers on the Montmorency incorrectly assigned to the Montrose, with another 11 Montmorency passengers omitted entirely from the Petone Settlers Museum database.

I will contact the Petone Settlers Museum and request that they correct their database and add the missing names.

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL
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