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« Reply #90 on: Thursday 02 June 16 10:02 BST (UK) »
Do we know when the practice stopped?
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« Reply #91 on: Thursday 02 June 16 10:03 BST (UK) »
Exactly Jen, from what I have read, it was a source of great comfort.   About 18 years ago, a friend of mine had two separate full term stillbirths.  On each occasion they held the child and took photos, the hospital encouraged and recommended that they do this as part of the grieving process. Both the mother and father say it helped them enormously and they are so happy to have those photos today. 

I'm not sure I would feel the same, but everyone is different.  I really don't think the practice is macabre at all, it's just whatever works for the person concerned.
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« Reply #92 on: Thursday 02 June 16 10:14 BST (UK) »
I agree Jen

Today photographs are two a penny, we take them and delete them at a whim.  Those of us who are "older" remember when photography involved buying a film, taking the pictures, then waiting to get the film developed, only to find you had cut off half of Uncle Harry on the right and Auntie Maud on the left had blinked and had her eyes closed and little Johnnie was picking his nose. Even then it was commonplace - most families had an "instamatic" or before that a Brownie box.

But, going back a bit further, photos were a rarity and a luxury. I am often bemused on here when people ask generally "I was hoping someone would have a photo of my xxxg-grandparent". The chances are there was never a photo taken of him/her, or if there was it would have been a one-off for a special occasion and thus if it survived would likely be with the family anyway.
So, for a family for whom having a photograph taken WAS a possibility (cost-wise), how easy it must have been to either have thought "we will get round to it sometime" but never quite get round to it, or alternatively it was never quite a priority cost-wise and so got put off.
Then, one of your children dies. You are faced with that awful knowledge that you will never ever see them again.
I can see that the idea of a PM photo could be something that would be considered , so you have a picture of them, which otherwise you would never have.
The idea of it seems awful to us now, but I am sure any family facing the trauma of losing a child nowadays will already have a picture of them, probably a whole lot of pictures throughout their short life.
Likewise for someone losing a husband or a brother or adult rellie.


And has just been said by Cazza, in circumstances nowadays when the baby dies at birth before there has been any chance to take photos, then photos of the deceased baby can be a great comfort and memory.
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« Reply #93 on: Thursday 02 June 16 11:15 BST (UK) »
Strange times indeed in the society of the day.

But surely the point is that although it seems almost unbelievable to us, it wasn't at all strange in Victorian society?


Yes, absolutely, I totally agree.

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« Reply #94 on: Thursday 02 June 16 12:16 BST (UK) »
Death masks were popular for 'famous' people and they have never been regarded as morbid :(. That was a way of keeping a likeness before photographs.
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« Reply #95 on: Thursday 02 June 16 12:33 BST (UK) »
Scouseboy If you read all the comments on this thread, it is obvious that these are photographs taken to help grieving families, not to entertain the mass media. If you introduce laws prohibiting these images, where do you draw the line? I really can't understand why you have such a problem with these images and this thread. Surely the answer is, if you don't like the subject, either here or elsewhere, you don't read it?
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« Reply #96 on: Thursday 02 June 16 13:18 BST (UK) »
I'd much rather look at a PM photo of a beloved deceased relative, than some of the promiscuous, violent photos and posts that are open pages on Facebook and other social media.  Some people that I have never heard of manage to tag others into their posts randomly somehow!  Makes me wonder if these type of people have any moral values at all!

Also don't like seeing images  of all the family violence and racist hatred that is currently always in ithe world and local news.

And totally sick of looking at the clown with aspirations of grandeur in the USA!

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« Reply #97 on: Thursday 02 June 16 13:44 BST (UK) »


So, is there a date after which we don't get posed photos such as these, or did they just gradually stop being taken as photography became cheaper and more available? I have a photo of my grandparents and their two young daughters. I know that the youngest one must have died shortly after the photo was taken, it never crossed my mind that it could be a PM photo, would 1912 be too late?
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« Reply #98 on: Thursday 02 June 16 13:46 BST (UK) »
Just had a look at that Facebook site, very interesting, I can't find a date for when PM photo's stopped being taken, I think it still goes on in certain places  :-\

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