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Dog Breeding Gales?
« on: Wednesday 11 May 16 12:34 BST (UK) »
Whilst performing a surname Search on the BNA, I got a false hit that is potentially very interesting.

(Hastings and St Leonards Observer - Saturday 20 September 1952, page 5).

In September 1952 there was a big dog show held in Hastings.

Amongst the many prizes, the Saltbarn cup (best smooth haired dachshund) went to Mrs R Gale's Wunderbar Womack (Chelsfield, Kent) female dog, bred by Mr A. H. Gale.

My paternal grandparents were Thomas Womack and Adelaide Gale, married in 1917, so you can understand my interest.

My current database has no credible candidates for this "Mrs R" and "Mr A H" Gale, and further searching in the BNA (for various combinations of Gale, Chelsfield, Kent, Dachshund) has found no more references.

Can anyone find ... well ... anything on these 2 Gales and their dog breeding?

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Re: Dog Breeding Gales?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 11 May 16 12:47 BST (UK) »
I have searched in FreeBMD for:

Type:       Marriages
Surname:       gale
First name(s):       a
Start date:       Mar 1920
End date:       Dec 1950
Spouse's first name(s):       r

I then eyeballed for "a" being male, and having a second name starting with "h" and the "r" being female.
(sadly FreeBMD does support any of those search methods)

I found only 1 match;

Marriages   Mar   1944   GALE   Albert H S G   Sewell   Bridport   1   5a   827
Marriages   Mar   1944   SEWELL   Rebecca   Gale   Bridport   1   5a   827

Subsequently (in FreeBMD), Gale/Sewell children Sonia, Caren, Pauline, Kevin, Michael and Glyn were born 1946-1959, all in Bridport.

They don't look like Kent dog breeders to me.

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Re: Dog Breeding Gales?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 11 May 16 12:53 BST (UK) »
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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 11 May 16 12:58 BST (UK) »
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Re: Dog Breeding Gales?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 11 May 16 13:03 BST (UK) »
I hate having to search The Times separately, when the BNA searches 615 newspaper simultaneously.

But sometimes; I found 3 hits, just pre war.

Tuesday, Nov 19, 1935; pg. 2
Friday,  Feb 28, 1936, pg. 1
Friday,  Oct 30, 1936; pg. 1
(images attached).

I wonder if the Gales bought this kennel?

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Re: Dog Breeding Gales?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 11 May 16 13:16 BST (UK) »
There is a death of an Arthur Harold Gale (Born 23 Sept 1902)  in Bromley Sept Qtr 1976    11   1136

Bromley Reg District includes Chelsfield

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Re: Dog Breeding Gales?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 11 May 16 13:21 BST (UK) »
There is a death of an Arthur Harold Gale (Born 23 Sept 1902)  in Bromley Sept Qtr 1976    11   1136

Bromley Reg District includes Chelsfield

One of the first search I did in the 1939 preview on FindMyPast ("a h gale" in Kent) have me;

Arthur H    Gale    1902    Orpington U.D.    Kent

Which looks like the same guy.

Confirmed; I added the DOB you gave to the search (23 Sept) and it still "hits"

Thank you.

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Re: Dog Breeding Gales?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 11 May 16 13:28 BST (UK) »
I wonder if his wife was Irene shortened to Rene

 Irene P Andrews- Arthur H Gale   Marriages Sep 1935    Lewisham    1d   2842   

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Re: Dog Breeding Gales?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 11 May 16 13:38 BST (UK) »
I wonder if his wife was Irene shortened to Rene

 Irene P Andrews- Arthur H Gale   Marriages Sep 1935    Lewisham    1d   2842

Looks likely - that fits the 1939 data, there's an Irene P Gale  also living at Oxendon Wood Rd

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Oxenden+Wood+Rd,+Orpington,+Greater+London+BR6+6HR/@51.3506397,0.1083122,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x47d8acb3e7112e55:0xfe0fcdc87a379dc3!8m2!3d51.3506397!4d0.1105009

(and possibly Arthur's siblings; Dudley W Gale, b1899 and Gwendoline C Gale b1907)

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