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Hannah Morrisey, Cork Family Members
« on: Monday 09 May 16 00:58 BST (UK) »
I'd appreciate any assistance you could provide in helping me trace my great great grandmother Hannah Morrisey. I only have information about her once she reached the US.

I know that she was born in Cork, Ireland possibly on November 6, 1860. According to the Boston Ma marriage registry she married John Deetjen on February 2, 1874 at age 17. (ages don't quite match up)The registry lists her parents as John and Ellen.

I don't know if she had any siblings or who might have immigrated around 1873 with her. After marrying John they soon moved to Portland,Me where she gave birth to 21 (that is not a typo!) children. She died in Portland on November 5, 1924.

Thank you for reading this.  :)

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Re: Hannah Morrisey, Cork Family Members
« Reply #1 on: Monday 09 May 16 09:23 BST (UK) »
Hannah would have been born prior to Civil Registration in 1864 so you would have to rely on Baptism records.  These are available on www.nli.registers.ie  but without knowing the location in Cork it will be difficult.
Looking at the 1901 Ireland Census www.nationalarchives.ie there are not that many Morrissey families & its possible her Father/Mother could still be living in 1901.Does her Death Cert give any additional information ?

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Re: Hannah Morrisey, Cork Family Members
« Reply #2 on: Monday 09 May 16 13:52 BST (UK) »
The only other info I have regarding her death is that she died at home after a short bout of pneumonia.

One possible family lead I have is that in the 1910 US Census her nephew, John Fitzgerald, approximate dob 1889 was living with them. The information was taken in April and it is written in that he had just arrived.

Perhaps, the child of sister? He as well as his parents have Ireland listed as birthplace. I am guessing that is a very common name.

Thanks for your response.  :)


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Re: Hannah Morrisey, Cork Family Members
« Reply #3 on: Monday 09 May 16 14:36 BST (UK) »
So, I followed up on your helpful suggestion to look at the 1901 census. In Wilkinstown, (Whitechurch, Wexford) there is a married couple by the name of John and Ellen Morrisey, ages 60 and 56.

I was hopeful as the names and religion were correct, but it seems that these people are too young. If Hannah was perhaps their first child and we went with 1858 as her birth year (which is on some census forms) then John and Ellen would have been 17 and 14 when she was born.

Plus, if John's occupation is listed as farmer would it not be unlikely for him to relocate from Cork if we assume he had been a farmer there?



Am I looking at this the right way?  ???



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Re: Hannah Morrisey, Cork Family Members
« Reply #4 on: Friday 13 May 16 23:26 BST (UK) »
So, I followed up on your helpful suggestion to look at the 1901 census. In Wilkinstown, (Whitechurch, Wexford) there is a married couple by the name of John and Ellen Morrisey, ages 60 and 56.

I was hopeful as the names and religion were correct, but it seems that these people are too young. If Hannah was perhaps their first child and we went with 1858 as her birth year (which is on some census forms) then John and Ellen would have been 17 and 14 when she was born.

Plus, if John's occupation is listed as farmer would it not be unlikely for him to relocate from Cork if we assume he had been a farmer there?



Am I looking at this the right way?  ???


Did Hannahs parents also immigrate to USA?  Regarding John Fitzgerald b 1889 he should be on the 1901 Census in Ireland. On checking the 1901 putting in approx age 10/11 for County Cork there are several entries.  The only way to be sure is to check the 1911 census and rule out the John Fitzgeralds who appeared in 1901 & are missing from the 1911 as he was in US by 1910.
Do you have Hannahs Death Cert - I have seen US death certs & they can provide a lot of information as to origins of a person in Ireland i.e Location, parents etc

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Re: Hannah Morrisey, Cork Family Members
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 May 16 05:34 BST (UK) »
With a bit of noodling around you can find this Fitzgerald family in Cork in 1901.
Good information from 1910 census. John Fitzgerald: marked as ‘newly arrived’ & ‘1910’.  as ‘nephew’ in Portland.  High chance therefore that came directly to Portland or nearby port, e.g. Boston or Portland.  1910 Census taking closed April 15th 1910.  Using Ancestry or FindMyPast only 1 John Fitzgerald’s into Boston or Portland fit age and date.   Arrived on the 14th April 1910, the ship Cymric at Boston!  Born Coachford, Cork, staying with Aunt: Hannah Dudgen (sic:  does look bit like Dudgen but actually reads 'Deetjen' on record proper)   Father marked as : Richard Fitzgerald,  Rylane.
So in 1901 census you find the family which unusually has the wife marked with her maiden name  “ Norah Morrissey” aged 35yo. So what luck! and high chance to be  the right family.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Mountrivers/Rylane/1124364/
You have lots of info  on 1901 and 1911 census 13 siblings, 9 living etc. regarding John Fitzgerald.

Padraig
O Driscoll, McCarthy, Collins, Fitzgerald, Johnson, Gunn, Swanton, Barry, O'Neill, O'Mahony,
O Donoughue, O Mahony, Connolly, Cadogan.

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Re: Hannah Morrisey, Cork Family Members
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 14 May 16 05:52 BST (UK) »
1911 Census has Richard and Norah married 23 years.
Here's his marriage cert to order.
Richard Fitzgerald
Date of Registration:   Jul-Aug-Sep, 1887. Macroom, Ireland
Volume: 5  Page Number: 253  FHL Film Number: 10125
Has a number of potential spouses and list includes  a 'Nanno Morrissy'.
This of course is likely to be the sister of Hannah Deetjen nee Morrissey.
This hopefully will have the Townland name of the Morrissey family.
O Driscoll, McCarthy, Collins, Fitzgerald, Johnson, Gunn, Swanton, Barry, O'Neill, O'Mahony,
O Donoughue, O Mahony, Connolly, Cadogan.

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Re: Hannah Morrisey, Cork Family Members
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 May 16 06:47 BST (UK) »
Also to point out that in 1901   there  is an Ellen Morrisey aged 70,  widow, living nearby to the Fitzgerald family in Rylane. This maybe Hannah and Norah's mother
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Mountrivers/Rylane/1124350/
Living with a Cunningham family. Jeremiah and Lizzie. So potentially a third sister (Hannah, Norah and Elizabeth Morrisey).
You could check their marriage cert and see if her father is a John Morrisey and again the Townland.
Jeremiah Cunningham: M   Oct-Nov-Dec, 1899 Reg: Macroom, Ireland
Vol:   5 Page No: 239  or via FHL Film Number: 101259
O Driscoll, McCarthy, Collins, Fitzgerald, Johnson, Gunn, Swanton, Barry, O'Neill, O'Mahony,
O Donoughue, O Mahony, Connolly, Cadogan.

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Re: Hannah Morrisey, Cork Family Members
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 14 May 16 10:52 BST (UK) »
Hard to leave when on a trail.
Elizabeth baptism, IrishGenealogy 1872
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/86a5904887335
and at the NLI, Aughabulloge  Jan 1872
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632519#page/1/mode/1up
Elizabeth Morrissy, Baptism: 13 Jan 1872, Aghabulloge, Cork. Diocese:Cloyne
Father: John Morrissy   Mother:Ellen Riordan.
Aghabulloge is about 3 km km south of  Rylane so pretty close and close to right age
So can order Elizabeth Morrissey 1872 Macroom v5 p602.

Honora  to John Morrissy and Ellen Riordan, 30th March 1864. FamilySearch:
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Anorah~%20%2Bsurname%3Amorrissey~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Acork~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1860-1880~%20%2Brecord_country%3AIreland&offset=20
NLI, Aghabulloge March 1854, it gives place as Rylane.
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632519#page/1/mode/1up
So can order Honora Morrissy 1864 Macroom v10 p563.

Joanna.  NLI, 30th Nov 1857. John Morrisey and Ellen Riordan, Rylane.
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632519#page/1/mode/1up
This is likely to be your great great grandmother. Dropped a few years off her age !
Dates and ages don't exactly fit but thats often the case. 

Marriage of Ellen Riordan and John Morrissey found in NLI 24th Feb 1857 Aghabulloge (Aghbologe)
http://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632518#page/1/mode/1up
Suggest you also confirm via certs as previously mentioned.
You can also see a number of other potential siblings by scrolling through the Aghabulloge Baps and via FamilySearch

Padraig
O Driscoll, McCarthy, Collins, Fitzgerald, Johnson, Gunn, Swanton, Barry, O'Neill, O'Mahony,
O Donoughue, O Mahony, Connolly, Cadogan.