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Re: German families immigrating to Australia late 1800s/ early 1900s
« Reply #18 on: Monday 09 May 16 02:48 BST (UK) »
I've already posted the information from my resource.  The CD indexes have most of the information with the exception of trade and residence.  I wouldn't waste my money purchasing certs in SA :)   

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SCHROEDER Friedrich Heinrich 28 years  Status Single  Father Wilhelm SCHROEDER
RUBEKAMP Adeline Louise Dorothea  27 years  Status Single  Father Fritz RUBEKAMP
10 Nov 1913
At the residence of Rev F W Basedow, North Unley   Ade S 257/446

Information on a 1913 marriage certificate in South Australia   
    Date and Place of Marriage
    Bride and Bridegrooms Names, Ages and Rank
    Trade
    Residence
    Father's names
    Church

Death
SCHROEDER Friedrich Heinrich
Father  Johann Wilhelm  Mother Betty Anne SIEMERING
At Murrayville  1931 46 years  Reg#6471

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Re: German families immigrating to Australia late 1800s/ early 1900s
« Reply #19 on: Monday 09 May 16 02:53 BST (UK) »
Blergh!
I looked at that the other day and didn't click that it was the information I was looking for. Too many thought things in my head again.

Thank you Cando.
HOWARD, LE JUGE, SCHROEDER all Australian

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Re: German families immigrating to Australia late 1800s/ early 1900s
« Reply #20 on: Monday 09 May 16 03:00 BST (UK) »
Perhaps you need to read a little more about researching using bdm indexes.

Birth
SCHROEDER Betty Elsa Dorothy
Father Friedrich Heinrich  Mother Adeline Dorothy RUBEKAMP
At Murrayville  1920  Reg#5802

And an obvious error with her father's name on this index.  Information on death certificates only as good as the knowledge of the informant.

Death
12391/1949     
NAUGHTON    Elsa Betty Dorothy    
Father Wilhelm Heinrich  No mother noted
District Taree

Possibly this information about the father was taken from NSW BDM - I interpret this as her grave is unmarked.  Perhaps I am incorrect.
dau/Wilhelm Heinrich; mother; unmarked

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Re: German families immigrating to Australia late 1800s/ early 1900s
« Reply #21 on: Monday 09 May 16 03:03 BST (UK) »
I think that Friedrich Heinrich SCHROEDER's mothers name was Betty Anna Siemering BAHN (in spite of being Betty Anna SIEMERING on Freidrich's death certificate).

She also died in Australia (11 JUN 1929 in Murrayville, Victoria) and her death certificate lists father as   Frederick Jurgen BAHN and mother as Sophie Margarethe SIEMERING.

Though at this point, anything is possible!
HOWARD, LE JUGE, SCHROEDER all Australian


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Re: German families immigrating to Australia late 1800s/ early 1900s
« Reply #22 on: Monday 09 May 16 03:10 BST (UK) »
Perhaps you need to read a little more about researching using bdm indexes.

Birth
SCHROEDER Betty Elsa Dorothy
Father Friedrich Heinrich  Mother Adeline Dorothy RUBEKAMP
At Murrayville  1920  Reg#5802

And an obvious error with her father's name on this index.  Information on death certificates only as good as the knowledge of the informant.

Death
12391/1949     
NAUGHTON    Elsa Betty Dorothy    
Father Wilhelm Heinrich  No mother noted
District Taree

Possibly this information about the father was taken from NSW BDM - I interpret this as her grave is unmarked.  Perhaps I am incorrect.
dau/Wilhelm Heinrich; mother; unmarked

Cando

Yeah, I have seen some interesting mix-ups on Death Certificates (it would not be any fun if it was always easy!)

More importantly - HOW did you get info about Elsa's death when the NSW BDM website will only let me search birth records before 1915?

Oh crikey. Obviously I need on online course, because I have just been winging it to get to here.
HOWARD, LE JUGE, SCHROEDER all Australian

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Re: German families immigrating to Australia late 1800s/ early 1900s
« Reply #23 on: Monday 09 May 16 03:13 BST (UK) »
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More importantly - HOW did you get info about Elsa's death when the NSW BDM website will only let me search birth records before 1915?

Death??   She was not born in NSW.

No you need to ask for help...and that's what we do here on rootschat.  Many of us have had years of experience researching and have many have our own resources which are not online.

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Re: German families immigrating to Australia late 1800s/ early 1900s
« Reply #24 on: Monday 09 May 16 03:18 BST (UK) »
The other 'inscriptions' at the cemetery have photographs so the Unmarked obviously refers to her grave.  No date of death either.
http://austcemindex.com/?cemid=396

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Re: German families immigrating to Australia late 1800s/ early 1900s
« Reply #25 on: Monday 09 May 16 03:29 BST (UK) »
Oh, I feel sick  :'(
I wonder if my mother in law knows that her mothers grave is unmarked. And now I wonder how hard it would be to get a grave marked (that is me thinking out loud, it does not require a response).

Damn.
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Re: German families immigrating to Australia late 1800s/ early 1900s
« Reply #26 on: Monday 09 May 16 03:46 BST (UK) »
I have interpreted the information on the website that the grave is unmarked as there is no photo either.  Unmarked usually means no headstone....perhaps there is a marker with her name and year of death but one would have thought there would have been a photo of that anyway.

Death of Freidrich Heinrich's brother. 

SCHROEDER Heinrich Conrad
Father Wilhelm  Mother Betty BAHN
At Murrayville  74 years  1962  Reg#14587

Photo of his and his wife's headstone and others
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hln/

I wouldn't be too worried about an unmarked grave.  Not everyone considers this important.

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