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German families immigrating to Australia late 1800s/ early 1900s
« on: Friday 06 May 16 07:54 BST (UK) »
I have NO German language. None.
My mother-in-law on the other hand...... Of course it was my mother-in-law!!
It looks like her mother was a first generation German/Australian. Both of her parents, and 3/4 of her grandparents were born in Gemany (well, Prussia actually) and died in Victoria, Australia.

I have naturalization certificates, wedding certificates, and death certificates, (all Australian), but what I would really like to find is information about HOW/WHEN they immigrated to Australia. They do not seem to appear in the immigration lists that I have access to.

Any suggestions please?
HOWARD, LE JUGE, SCHROEDER all Australian

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Re: German families immigrating to Australia late 1800s/ early 1900s
« Reply #1 on: Friday 06 May 16 08:06 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

On the Naturalisation papers, often in obscure parts of the multipage forms, it should actually state the name of the ship of arrival, and the port and date of arrival.

I am attaching the NSW State Records sample of a NSW Naturalization application.   On this example it is easy to spot, but on some of the forms it is quite obscure. 

http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/images/documents-1/645088.jpg/view

I think Victoria's Naturalisation certificates are lodged with the National Archives of Australia.
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/fact-sheets/fs68.aspx

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Re: German families immigrating to Australia late 1800s/ early 1900s
« Reply #2 on: Friday 06 May 16 13:12 BST (UK) »
BRILLIANT!! ;D

The Commonwealth holds the Victorian records pre 1903, and after 1903 they are commonwealth records.

Now I just have to peruse them **happy place**
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Re: German families immigrating to Australia late 1800s/ early 1900s
« Reply #3 on: Friday 06 May 16 14:34 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately it looks like some of the in-laws did not register for naturalization.

I have found out how two siblings got to Australia though, so I am not disappointed.

Opps, and here is the guy I am after, it just looks like his record has not been examined yet.
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/NameSearch/Interface/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=1771992

Because that is the sort of luck I have!!

Modified to add: I have made an application to have this record examined and released. Should find out in the next 90 days.
HOWARD, LE JUGE, SCHROEDER all Australian


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Re: German families immigrating to Australia late 1800s/ early 1900s
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 07 May 16 07:07 BST (UK) »
I would suggest you have this request moved to the Australian Board.

Your link to NAA has timed out. 

What is the full name of F H SCHROEDER?

Could it be Freidrich Heinrich?  Surname also known as SCHRÖDER

I have waited more than 90 days for records to be examined and digitised files placed online or photocopies of the files snail mailed.

May I suggest that you post names of your people of interest.  Many of us have resources that are not available online.  Vague references may deter others from assisting you.

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Re: German families immigrating to Australia late 1800s/ early 1900s
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 08 May 16 09:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks Cando.

Darn. I hate when links time out. Yes it is Friedrich Heinrich SCHROEDER, and the Victorian Index to Naturalization says he was naturalized in Jul 1914.

I read a blog that suggests he traveled to Australia, from Bremen, with his girlfriend Adeline Louise Dorethea RUBENKAMP sometime in 1913, and they married in Australia after they arrived.

Thanks for reading.

Note: I have asked a moderator to move this thread.
HOWARD, LE JUGE, SCHROEDER all Australian

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Re: German families immigrating to Australia late 1800s/ early 1900s
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08 May 16 09:34 BST (UK) »
I have also paid for this record to be made public:

Title: Lejuge, Ferdinand Louis - Naturalisation
Barcode: 1815059
Series No: A712
Control Code: 1861/R4836

Fingers crossed it has the information about his ship in it :)
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Re: German families immigrating to Australia late 1800s/ early 1900s
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 08 May 16 10:12 BST (UK) »
I recognised his name as he, his wife and son are buried in the same cemetery as my grandparents and parents.  I remember his son well. His son's family including his wife are all living.

SCHROEDER Friedrich Heinrich 28 years  Status Single  Father Wilhelm SCHROEDER
RUBEKAMP Adeline Louise Dorothea  27 years  Status Single  Father Fritz RUBEKAMP
10 Nov 1913
At the residence of Rev F W Basedow, North Unley   Ade S 257/446

Son's marriage
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article189820113

Cando



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Re: German families immigrating to Australia late 1800s/ early 1900s
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 08 May 16 10:40 BST (UK) »
Ah, you have amazing memory!

Thanks for sharing that. I suspected they were married in 1913 in SA, but are not sure how to verify the information.

I only have information for one son: Wilhelm Friederick SCHRODER, who died in 1971. Is this the son you remember?

Now that I know they are buried in the same cemetery, I will see if I can do a cemetery search. If I am lucky, pictures on their headstones will be online.

My connection is through my husband, his grandmother was Elsa Betty Dorothy SCHRODER (without the E apparently), Friedrich and Adeline's daughter/Wihelm's sister.
HOWARD, LE JUGE, SCHROEDER all Australian