Another Murray puzzle

[annecannes]

A great-great uncle William Murray (another one!) born Airdrie in 1848 married Mary McKinnon born in Balfron Stirlingshire in 1852. Marriage cert from ScotlandsPeople - married on 8 August, 1873 in Govan. Also from ScPe. a birth certificate for Janet Turnbull Murray on 5 May 1874 in Barony. My problem is that in Census for 81, 91 and 1901 (and the correct family I believe) the eldest is Martha born either 73 or 74. I cannot find a matching birth record for her - nor can I find Janet Turnbull Murray in the Census. Janet Turnbull was William's mother and Martha was the name of Mary McKinnon's grandmother and younger sister. What am I missing??

[Millmoor]

Hi

One possible explanation is that Martha was born before the marriage of William and Mary. I note there is a birth on familysearch for a Martha Mckinnon 9 Sep 1872 in Hutchenstown, Glasgow , mother Mary Mckinnon. This might be worth following up on SP as might checking for a death for Janet Turnbull Murray before the 1881 census.

William

[rosie17]

Just for the record is this the correct family in the 1881 census address Thorn Bank Maryhill
William Murray age 33 b Airdrie occupation builder master
Mary Murray age 29 Balfron
Martha age 8 .John 5 .Thomas 3

There is a death for a Janet Murray 1877 age 4 in Maryhill maybe worth looking at on S P
Rosie

[annecannes]

Thank you to both for the suggestions. I am as certain as one can be that the 1881 census is the correct family as it ticks all the boxes (except for Martha!) I shall follow up on both the death of Janet and  earlier birth of a Martha. 

[rosie17]

Good idea could be the Martha McKinnon birth that William found in 1872 ? ..If looking for death for Janet Murray no middle name I recorded
Rosie

[annecannes]

Rosie's lead to Janet Murray was the correct one. Janet died at Thornbank House, Maryhill in Nov 1877 aged 3 and a half of hydrocephalus. Now I just have to load up my SP credits and follow up William's lead.  Thank you both

[rosie17]

Rosie's lead to Janet Murray was the correct one. Janet died at Thornbank House, Maryhill in Nov 1877 aged 3 and a half of hydrocephalus. Now I just have to load up my SP credits and follow up William's lead.  Thank you both

Good news hope you can solve the Martha's birth now
Rosie 

[annecannes]

William's tip also panned out as Martha was Illegitimate on the birth certificate and Mary McKinnon was a domestic servant - as was the Mary McKinnon who married William Murray. No age or place of birth for the mother is on the birth certificate to cross check but, given that I can find no Martha McKinnon daughter of Mary in the 1881 Census am I fairly safe to assume this is 'my' Martha? 

[rosie17]

If you read back the to the third post is that not Martha in the 1881 census recorded as Martha Murray ?
Rosie