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Re: Edward SPOONER, boot and shoe maker of Wolverhampton, not found in some censuses
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 27 April 16 19:47 BST (UK) »
I think that looks quite good, what did the census say ?...1811, have you found his burial ? The age on that could help.

Plus he was consistent with his PoB being Sedgley.

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Re: Edward SPOONER, boot and shoe maker of Wolverhampton, not found in some censuses
« Reply #37 on: Wednesday 27 April 16 20:26 BST (UK) »
Sarah was widowed by 1901 and they are together on 1891 census in Wolverhampton
Edward age 81 (1810) Sedgley , so his death sometime between 1891 – 1901

This might be his death entry

Mar 1898 Wolverhampton 6b 380
Edward SPOONER age 88 (1810)

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Re: Edward SPOONER, boot and shoe maker of Wolverhampton, not found in some censuses
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 27 April 16 20:45 BST (UK) »
Sarah was widowed by 1901 and they are together on 1891 census in Wolverhampton
Edward age 81 (1810) Sedgley , so his death sometime between 1891 – 1901

This might be his death entry

Mar 1898 Wolverhampton 6b 380
Edward SPOONER age 88 (1810)

Yes, that's very probably his death. (That 1898 death reg was in the timeline on my opening post.)

I suppose 25th Dec 1809 is very nearly 1810... but I'd want to rule out the possibility that 1809-Edward hadn't died and the name been reused, first. Transcriptions of the Sedgley records online are very patchy. I don't have any other evidence that Edward's father was called Richard. I may have to see if I can get hold of the film of the Sedgley PRs.

Looking again at the mysterious Harriet LOYNEL living near Richard   Spooner in 1851.

They are all in Church Lane which is at most ½ mile from where Harriet's future husband Felix CORR was living in 1851 (he was at St James' Square, which has now disappeared under the Bilston Island roundabout). By the time of their marriage 20 months after the census, they were recorded as living at Stafford Street (Edward+Ann's residence) and Berry Street, respectively.

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Re: Edward SPOONER, boot and shoe maker of Wolverhampton, not found in some censuses
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 27 April 16 21:09 BST (UK) »
...have you found his burial ? The age on that could help.

P.S. no, I haven't been able to find a burial yet. Though there is a line in one of the www.wolverhamptonhistory.org.uk PDFs for:

Richard Spooner, bur. 18th Mar 1860, aged 73 [i.e. b. abt 1787], of Pipers Row, St George.

(Merridale Cemetery: Burials 1850-1879
Surnames Sh-Z)

That is probably the same Richard found on Church Lane in 1851 who was the possible father/relative for Edward.


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Re: Edward SPOONER, boot and shoe maker of Wolverhampton, not found in some censuses
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 27 April 16 22:02 BST (UK) »
Hi

Another possible burial for the family, daughter of (John) Edward Spooner

Mary Isabel aged 17months buried 16 Dec 1879 of North Street. Daughter of Edward, railway clerk
Grave: 8938b

Merridale Cemetery: Burials 1879-1904 Surnames Q-Z

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Re: Edward SPOONER, boot and shoe maker of Wolverhampton, not found in some censuses
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 27 April 16 22:07 BST (UK) »
This looks like the burial of Richard Spooners wife maybe

Mary Spooner aged 64 buried 10 Mar 1850 of CHURCH LANE

Wolverhampton St. Peter’s: Burials 1813-1862 Surnames I-Y

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Re: Edward SPOONER, boot and shoe maker of Wolverhampton, not found in some censuses
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 28 April 16 09:52 BST (UK) »
This looks like the burial of Richard Spooners wife maybe

Mary Spooner aged 64 buried 10 Mar 1850 of CHURCH LANE

Wolverhampton St. Peter’s: Burials 1813-1862 Surnames I-Y

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Yes, I think you are right. If I can prove that Richard+Mary were Edward's parents, that's a significant leap backwards.

Incidentally I have found the missing baptism for daughter #2 Jane Spooner. 23rd December 1835, St Peter's. Findmypast Staffordshire PRs collection. The surname was transcribed as "Spencer". You can see why.

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Re: Edward SPOONER, boot and shoe maker of Wolverhampton, not found in some censuses
« Reply #43 on: Friday 29 April 16 00:52 BST (UK) »

Crikey, that's terrible handwriting, but it does look like Spencer  :o

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