Edward SPOONER, boot and shoe maker of Wolverhampton, not found in some censuses

[bibliotaphist]

I've checked directories for the area for Edward, boot maker to get a possible address,-no joy.

Wonder where Ann was buried, a record may have an address , which may or may not be where they are in 1871

Claire

He is in the 'History, Gazetteer & Directory of Staffordshire', 1851, on Stafford Street...

http://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/cdm/ref/collection/p16445coll4/id/218945

...but I knew that already 

[..claire..]

I was looking around the 1871/1881 time.  Just strange two census's and no trace of them at all.

Claire

[bibliotaphist]

I was looking around the 1871/1881 time.  Just strange two census's and no trace of them at all.

Claire

Slowly but surely and as limited funds allow I am buying all available birth, marriage, and death certificates for every one of my direct ancestors, in approximate reverse chronological/Ahnentafel order.

Eventually I will get around to the death cert of Ann Spooner née Highfield in 1872, and the second marriage of Edward in '73. (Edward+Ann are my four-greats grandparents. Jane Spooner is my three-greats grandmother and through a complicated series of events in the 1880s I can also count her sister Harriet as my step-three-greats grandmother...)

It's going to take me a while to get to this generation, though. I still have a number of great-great grandparents' certs to buy, never mind the three-greats.

I think for the time being Edward is just going to remain lost during that period. At least he reappeared in 1891 in time to die 'on the record'. I've not been so lucky determining the fate of four of Jane Spooner's children with William GRADY. Once that lot get lost, they stay lost 

Thanks one more time for all your help. I've made real progress today.

[..claire..]

Your welcome 

Will have a look later, after work

Claire

[..claire..]

Hi

Have found Ann's burial record. In 1872 they were living in HERBERT STREET, which is in the same area as Stafford Street. So they must be around somewhere.

Ann Spooner buried 20 Nov. 1872 aged 61 years. Of Herbert Street. Wife of Edward shoemaker.
Grave no. 4876.

Mary Ann Spooner aged 1 day buried 25 Oct. 1853. Of Herbert St. Daughter of Edward Spooner shoemaker
Grave: 8757
Died of convulsions.

Claire 

[bibliotaphist]

Hi

Have found Ann's burial record. In 1872 they were living in HERBERT STREET, which is in the same area as Stafford Street. So they must be around somewhere.

Ann Spooner buried 20 Nov. 1872 aged 61 years. Of Herbert Street. Wife of Edward shoemaker.
Grave no. 4876.

Mary Ann Spooner aged 1 day buried 25 Oct. 1853. Of Herbert St. Daughter of Edward Spooner shoemaker
Grave: 8757
Died of convulsions.

Claire 

Fantastic! What's the source for those two please?

They're at 80, Herbert Street, in the '61 census so I'm sure they must be there on the '71.

When I have time later I'll try stepping through the 1871 census page by page for that area of Wolv/ton. Is it possible that certain pages are not indexed, I wonder.

[Ladyhawk]

Hi

Have found Ann's burial record. In 1872 they were living in HERBERT STREET, which is in the same area as Stafford Street. So they must be around somewhere.

Ann Spooner buried 20 Nov. 1872 aged 61 years. Of Herbert Street. Wife of Edward shoemaker.
Grave no. 4876.

Mary Ann Spooner aged 1 day buried 25 Oct. 1853. Of Herbert St. Daughter of Edward Spooner shoemaker
Grave: 8757
Died of convulsions.

Claire 

Fantastic! What's the source for those two please?

They're at 80, Herbert Street, in the '61 census so I'm sure they must be there on the '71.

When I have time later I'll try stepping through the 1871 census page by page for that area of Wolv/ton. Is it possible that certain pages are not indexed, I wonder.

Could this be who you are looking for?

NO surname written on the census, their surname dittoed as FIRM
Joseph FIRM & family living at no 79 Herbert Street

1871 RG10; Piece: 2937; Folio: 67; Page: 27

80 HERBERT STREET
Edward 56 Sedgley occ Shoemaker
Ann 60 Wolverhampton bolt maker
Edward J son 17 Wolverhampton railway wagon clerk

[Ladyhawk]

For info,

Edward Spooner mar. 28 GW Rly Clerk & his family are visiting the Nicholas family in Pembroke Wales
1881  RG11; Piece: 5414; Folio: 29; Page: 5

ADDED

Edward Spooner remarried, he’s a Station Master on 1901c  RG13; Piece: 1940; Folio: 69; Page: 16 living in Wiltshire with wife Emily & dau Nellie

31 Oct 1910 by Licence at Ascension, Balham Hill
Edward Spooner 56 wid. station master, Westbury Wilts father Edward dec’d occ traveller
Julia Maud Tuffin 47 sp., 166 Cavendish Rd Balham father Nehemiah deceased occ carpenter
Wits James Edward Morris & Harry Richards

[bibliotaphist]

Could this be who you are looking for?

NO surname written on the census, their surname dittoed as FIRM
Joseph FIRM & family living at no 79 Herbert Street

1871 RG10; Piece: 2937; Folio: 67; Page: 27

80 HERBERT STREET
Edward 56 Sedgley occ Shoemaker
Ann 60 Wolverhampton bolt maker
Edward J son 17 Wolverhampton railway wagon clerk

Hooray, Ladyhawk: you've found them alright. -1 point for the census enumerator getting carried away with his dittos over the household boundary. My blank spaces are getting fewer. Thank you.

I'm still going to try trawling the area page by page in 1881.