Author Topic: Louis Carpentier from France to Harpley, Norfolk.  (Read 2134 times)

Offline jorose

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Re: Louis Carpentier from France to Harpley, Norfolk.
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 24 April 16 13:47 BST (UK) »
You will have to be very careful about connecting any records you find online to your particular Carpentiers; a very limited set of French records are online, and just because there's a Carpentier/Rozier marriage doesn't make it yours or related to yours in any way.

I would ask the people with trees where those parents' names came from; it may well be that somebody found a particular Louis, decided it was the right one, evidence or not, and everyone else copied without thinking of checking. Sadly all too common.

I know people are trying to help, but what we have here is a French man born about 1757 who fled during the Reign of Terror, bearing a very common name (French equivalent of Carpenter).

A marriage in 1770 with similar names to his supposed parents (who may or may not be correct) or a man in Belgium in 1794 with the same name as his supposed father are not necessarily connected, and just searching for people with similar names in France is, in my opinion, a waste of time until you can find concrete evidence of his origins in other records.

One thing to check - have you seen the original of his marriage in England? Does it say if he was single or a widower?

There is a thesis: Refugees of the French Revolution: Émigrés in London, 1789–1802 (you can find a pdf online), which gives some interesting background but more importantly a list of sources, the main of which is the series T 93 at the National Archives -    
French Refugees Relief Committee: Records
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C13830

If he received any sort of support on arrival to England, he may be found somewhere in those records, but somebody would have to spend a significant amount of time sifting through records at Kew to figure it out.
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Louis Carpentier from France to Harpley, Norfolk.
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 24 April 16 14:44 BST (UK) »
Bury and Norwich Post, 25 Feb 1829
DIED - Same day (ie.18 Feb), at Harpley, Louis Carpentier, a native of France, age 71.

His death notice states after fleeing France 1792, he worked 36 years for the Rev C Spurgeon, of Harpley. Rev Spurgeon predeceased him by 25 days.

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Re: Louis Carpentier from France to Harpley, Norfolk.
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 24 April 16 20:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks Hanes and Jorose.
Yes, Jorose - I absolutely agree, and I actually think the marriage attributed by some trees on ancestry must be wrong because of the dates. It would be nice to find even a number of Louis Carpentiers born in the right year that could be kept in mind while evidence is sought for. I will look for his marriage - pretty sure findmypast has Norfolk parishes online.
Thanks also for the archives link.

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Re: Louis Carpentier from France to Harpley, Norfolk.
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 11 June 16 14:49 BST (UK) »
Dear GeorgiyH,
Jorose is perfectly right : unfortunately, these names are really very common in France, much too common to follow up on a lead, without proper information on the exact area of origin.
Once you have further information thanks to the marriage certificate, do not hesitate to ask me if you need some help with French language, while searching in French records online. I'd do my best to help you.
Greetings from France !


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Re: Louis Carpentier from France to Harpley, Norfolk.
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 12 June 16 02:19 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately the marriage in Norfolk gave no details or particulars about where in France he was from, let alone parents...I am told his mother was a lady in waiting of Marie Antoinette, but I very much doubt that is the actual truth - romanticised family lore more likely.