NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE - was it ever Scottish?

[bookfairy]

No offence meant but up here we sometimes refer to "Geordies" as half baked Scotsman .
It's meant as a term of endearment.

Geordies like Scots are born north of Watford 

Dorrie

lol, I've wondered if he claimed Scot as a preference. 

Where does the term Geordies come from?  I've seen it before but don't know the meaning.

[maddys52]

Trusty (?) wikipedia says the etymology of the term Geordie is uncertain, but probably coming from the name George - either from the most common name of the local pitmen, or the name of the lamps they wore designed by George Stephenson, or who knows!

I knew my gg grandfather was born in Newcastle upon Tyne, so always assumed he was a Geordie (and thought of him with the accent) but was disappointed when I started family history myself to learn his family were just staying there for a time - they were from Staffordshire, and moved around a fair bit, so I'm sure now he wasn't a Geordie. 

[stanmapstone]

No offence meant but up here we sometimes refer to "Geordies" as half baked Scotsman .
IFromt's meant as a term of endearment.
Geordies like Scots are born north of Watford 
Dorrie

"A Geordie is a Scotsman with his brains bashed oot"
"The English divvn't want wi', and the Scots winnit have wi."
From "A Geordie Scrapbook" by Joe Ging.

Stan

[maddys52]

 

[dido]

There are a few interpretations of the Geordie name such as if you were born within half a mile of the river Tyne you classed yourself as true Geordie. The most highly likely is when King George the 1st marched north to do battle with the Jacobite army at Braemar in 1715.  He recruited hundreds of men from northern England where these became known as  Geordies men and the name stuck.

[Skoosh]

George I never set foot in Scotland, it was the duke of Argyll who fought the Jacobites at Sheriffmuir in 1715. The first Hanovarian king to cross the border was George IV.

Skoosh.

[Skoosh]

The Solway-Tweed agreement was broken by the English when they occupied Berwick & slaughtered the inhabitants. We want it back, unfinished business.

Skoosh.

[dido]

Thanks for that little bit of history. Yes, he marched North to Northumberland with empty promises to the poor and starving Geordies. Maybe pressed or threatened them more like, to his own quest for glory and with no surprise in sending some other poor lackey over the border with the newly named Geordies as field fodder.
Not even surprised you have unfinished business.    

[Ayashi]

One of my ancestors born Newcastle (1854) had a great-grandfather who was born in Scotland (and moved to Newcastle). I noted with interest that on her will she leaves behind a large portrait of Mary Queen of Scots.