Author Topic: Tracing from Finland/Russia (Carl Bjornvik)  (Read 5315 times)

Offline whiteout7

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Re: Tracing from Finland/Russia (Carl Bjornvik)
« Reply #45 on: Friday 22 April 16 01:24 BST (UK) »
Well done Ian :)
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Re: Tracing from Finland/Russia (Carl Bjornvik)
« Reply #46 on: Friday 22 April 16 07:31 BST (UK) »
I have the Death printout.

It states time in New Zealand as 21 Years (in 1905), the age at death 43, matches up and death date etc. This means his trip would have been in 1884.

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Re: Tracing from Finland/Russia (Carl Bjornvik)
« Reply #47 on: Friday 22 April 16 07:50 BST (UK) »
That would be dependent on his memory,I have seen wrong ships of arrival given, was he literate?

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Re: Tracing from Finland/Russia (Carl Bjornvik)
« Reply #48 on: Friday 22 April 16 07:58 BST (UK) »
I have the Death printout.

It states time in New Zealand as 21 Years (in 1905), the age at death 43, matches up and death date etc. This means his trip would have been in 1884.

A death printout is only as good as the informant,often an emotionally upset relative

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Re: Tracing from Finland/Russia (Carl Bjornvik)
« Reply #49 on: Friday 22 April 16 11:24 BST (UK) »
Am wondering if this Papers Past Article, might be our John. If so , we might have his arrival in Port Chalmers (which would explain his Dunedin Residence at his time of marriage). It also fits in with the fact that he was still in Finland in 1880/1881, and had to be here by Dec 1885, for his wedding. The Death printout, had no ship name. Just the years in New Zealand, and as others have stated that may or may not be correct depending on how greived the person giving the information was.

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=ODT18831224.2.3&srpos=2&e=01-10-1883-01-03-1885--100--1-byDA---2Karlson--

As to the person who asked if he was literate... I am not sure. It looks asthough the Death printout is like a death certificate (though provides more information about cause of death). He had apparently had  Stricture of Pylorus, time of illness is stated as 6 months, and also had a Gastric haemorrhage.

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Re: Tracing from Finland/Russia (Carl Bjornvik)
« Reply #50 on: Friday 22 April 16 11:42 BST (UK) »
Hi again...

"Time in the colony" is often (but not always) mentioned when applying to be naturalised. It's as accurate as you're going to get short of a passenger list.

I've also seen applications which list the date, ship and port of arrival... and others which haven't :-)

Just keep hanging out for someone to answer your Wellington Archives lookup request and keep your fingers crossed.

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Thanks Linda but it was 100% down to Ian.

I'd already looked at those pages and totally missed the entries.... grrrrrrrr :-(

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Re: Tracing from Finland/Russia (Carl Bjornvik)
« Reply #51 on: Friday 22 April 16 12:32 BST (UK) »
Some more gaps to fill in:

1813 - Johannes Björnvik's father Johan Carlsson Gunnila birth 7 Dec: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hi9/
1820 - Johan Carlsson Gunnila and family: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=9586206


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Re: Tracing from Finland/Russia (Carl Bjornvik)
« Reply #52 on: Friday 22 April 16 19:29 BST (UK) »
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Thanks Linda but it was 100% down to Ian.

I'd already looked at those pages and totally missed the entries.... grrrrrrrr :-(

Regards
Beg
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He's brilliant isn't he, I struggled with the hand writing in those Kommunication Books when I tried to help Stephanie over in Facebook :)