Tracing from Finland/Russia (Carl Bjornvik)

[Stephanie Campbell]

Hi All,

I am quite stuck on the tracing of three members of my family tree. They are added into the tree through Marriage, and were all at one point (1885) living in Dunedin.

I am looking for Carl Bjornvik (b. approx 1848) his wife Carolina Bjornvik (nee Yrjas) and their son John Carlson (b. 1862).

I with all the data I have estimate the arrival of John Carlson in New Zealand at 1881, due to a papers past article, from 1889 that states he had been in New Zealand for 8 years, but was not Naturalised (Naturalisation date 13 May 1902).

Any help would be appreciated.

Attached is the Marriage of John Carlson (the son) to Emma Alice Eden BIRDSEY.

[minniehaha]

Hello Stephanie,

Welcome to Rootshat. 

Here are the children of John & Emma........

1889/375   Carlson   Frederick William   Emma Alice Eden   John   -   

1894/10058   Carlson   Lillian Caroline Birdsey   Emma Alice Eden   John   -   
1887/3944   Carlson   John Charles   Emma Alice Eden   John   -   
1897/5790   Carlson   Ivy Irena Victoria   Emma Alice Eden   John   -   

1899/12667   Carlson   Violet Louisa Weedon   Emma Alice Eden   John

Minniehaha.

[minniehaha]

The death of Carl?......

Cemetery Details
Surname   CARLSON
Forename   CARL
Age   45 Years
Gender   Male
Date of Death   26 Dec 1894
Last Address   "Hulks", Port Chalmers, Dunedin
Next of Kin   
Funeral Director   Not recorded
Cemetery   PORT CHALMERS CEMETERY
Location   Block REG. Plot 261
Date of Burial   28 Dec 1894
Type   Burial
Occupation   Night Watchman
Place of Birth   
Date of Birth   Not recorded
Notes   Place of Birth: Sweden
Lived 18 years in NZ

Minniehaha.

[minniehaha]

The circumstances of his death........

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=ESD18941229.2.37&srpos=1&e=--1894---1894--10-ESD%2cOG%2cOW-1----2carlson--


Minniehaha.

[Stephanie Campbell]

I have the Children of John and Emma. I have everything for the next generation down, they are not the tricky points.

As for the Carl Carlson... it 'might' be him, however, it also might not be... I have no way of confirming that, and bdm seems to be of no help as well as ancestry, and FindMyPast.

The one thing that might help is that John died in 1905, and in in affadavit Emma signed in 1907 (very delayed) it stated he had no relatives in the colony of New Zealand. This must mean that either the parents (Carl and Carolina Bjornvik) died prior to 1905/7 or moved from New Zealand prior to then.

I have no idea what ship they came over on, and if I was able to find that might have a little more luck with sourcing the Bjornvik information (as far as I can tell the Bjornvik name is non-patronymic, which is unusual for Finland)

[minniehaha]

The death of son John?........

1923/4590   Carlson   John      62Y


Minniehaha.

[minniehaha]

The only John Carlson death for 1905 is one John Charles Carlson, aged 58 years.??

Funeral notice......

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=EP19050307.2.62.1&srpos=1&e=--1905---1905--10--1----2john+carlson--


Minniehaha.

[Stephanie Campbell]

Last name    CARLSON
First name    JOHN
Age    43 Years
Occupation    SHIPWRIGHT
Service provided    Burial
Burial date    08/03/1905
Funeral director    WILSON
Cemetery    Karori
Section    PUBLIC
Plot number    171 I
Record number    24001

http://wellington.govt.nz/services/community-and-culture/cemeteries/cemeteries-search/details?id=24001&serviceType=Burial&previousPage=%2fservices%2fcommunity-and-culture%2fcemeteries%2fcemeteries-search%2fresults%3fserviceType%3dAll%26firstNames%3djohn%26lastName%3dCarlson%26fromDate%3d01%252f01%252f1840%26toDate%3d20%252f04%252f2016%26cemetery%3dAll

Death was 5 March 1905 (It states so in the Affadavit - below)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99VP-3QQJ?mode=g&i=264&wc=Q8C5-J9T%3A1045248401%2C1061027502%3Fcc%3D1865481&cc=1865481

[minniehaha]

Burial..........

Last name*   CARLSON
First name   JOHN
Age   58 Years
Occupation   Labourer
Service provided   Burial
Burial date   23/07/1905
Cemetery   Karori
Section   PUBLIC2
Plot number   32 F
Record number   103031

*However funeral notice in previous reply has the death of a John Carlson March 1905. Same cemetery....

Minniehaha.