Ralphs at Wantage Workhouse

[LizzieL]

In 1861, 10 year old Frederick Ralf (sic) is with grandparents Jesse and Sarah Day in Harwell. Can't find Leah and her younger son.

[suzard]

Hi - there are trees on A*****y with (what looks like) "your" William Francis

one tree has the mother as Leah Ralph  and then has William Francis (as your findings) Workhouse/Navy/ marrying in India - no place for him 1861 census

the other has father Charles Ralph who died 1859 and mother Mary - then 1871/81 census as you found and  him marrying in india

I have found 1861 census which may be him - if the second tree is more correct

very detailed census

1861
Uffington
Francis Spendlo (on other records spellt as Spindler Spendlow) Head Married 60 Carter
Maria Spendlo wife 42 a poor cripple for years from accident with threshing machine
Henry Spendlo son M 24 labor
Jane Spendlo daughter 6 labor?
Children be her(Maria?) first marriage
Mary Ralph daughter in law Married (should this be widow?) 25 field work
Charles Ralph son in law(stepson?) single 18 shepher
Charlotte Ralph daughter 16 labor
John Ralph son 15 Labor
Mary Ralph's children
Eliza Ralph granddaughter 5 scholar
WILLIAM RALPH grandson 3 scholar
Elizabeth Ralph granddaughter 2months
All born Wantage

will delve a little more into this

Suz
rg9 729 21 11

[trish1120]

Quote from LizzieL;
There is a report in Oxford Chronicle and Reading Gazette 26 December 1846
of removal of Jesse Day, wife and four children and also Leah Ralph from Britwell to Harwell. The overseer of Britwell who applied for the order was a Mr Ralph (co-incidence?)

Marriage;
24 December 1831, St Matthew, Harwell, Berkshire
Jesse DAY, Bachelor
Sarah DAY, Spinster
(Source FreeREG)

Familysearch has a submitted christening (I cant confirm this)
Leah RALPH, 10 June 1829, Harwell, Parents Sarah Ralph and Jesse Day

[suzard]

this looks like the family in 1871 -but no William

I think the tree which has William Francis as the daughter of Charles Ralph and Mary is in error -as Mary appears to be unmarried in 1871
Possibly they mistook Charles Ralph (described as son in law in 1861 ) as father - but think he may be Mary's brother and "son in law"  = stepson???

1871
Uffington
Maria Spindler head widow 60 lab field
Mary Ralph daughter U 36 ag lab
Charles Ralph son U 26 ag lab
Eliza Ralph granddaughter 16 ag lab
Elizabeth Ralph granddaughter 10 scholar
Fanny Ralph granddaughter 8
Martha Ralph 6 Granddaughter
Stephen grandson 5
all b Uffington Berks
RG10 1259 23 14

Suz

[LizzieL]

just found this

http://ukga.org/cgi-bin/browse.cgi?DB=8&action=ViewRec&bookID=7&page=26

Jesse Day married Sarah Ralph in Wantage oops meant Harwell, 24 dec 1831, so if Leah was born 1829ish, it looks like she was Sarah's daughter, either illeg or by 1st husband if Sarah was a widow.

[ribbo39]

Hi,
Quote from trish1120 "Familysearch has a submitted christening (I cant confirm this)
Leah RALPH, 10 June 1829, Harwell, Parents Sarah Ralph and Jesse Day"
I can confirm this bapt. taken from the Harwell transcripts (ex Oxford FHS) but it reads;
"8-6-1829 Leah Ralph natural d/o Sarah a Single Woman"

also the marriage is confirmed with the wits; Thomas Greenough, Joseph Johnson. Botp & after Banns.

I've also noted there is a marriage in Harwell thus;
4-6-1827 Henry Tidbury, b, of East Ilseley to Leah Ralph(x), sp, otp by Banns.
Wits; Letitia Day, Joseph Johnson
also for good measure;
3-9-1827 James Norris, b, to Rebecca Ralph(x), sp, otp By Banns;
Wits; Joseph Johnson, Mary Ann Ralf(x)

Alan

[suzard]

I think we can dimiss the Charles and mary as being parents
The William Ralph found in 1861 -this looks like him in 1871
Ibstone berks
William Ralph Lodger 13 Ploughboy Uffington Berks
in household of Henry Turner and family
RG10 1257 78 22

(what looks like) this William Ralph can be found in census up to 1911!

Suz