re Mary holmes (nee lightfoot)

[Jeni63]

I have absolutely come to a dead end literally - looking for my great great grandmother Mary HOlmes married to John Holmes from Warrington the grandmother of my grandfather Frank Holmes and mother of his father Alfred holmes.   She does not appear in the 1881 census - and I know their children were scattered around the place at different relatives/friends.   I cant find any listing of death or could she have left could she have been institutionalised with TB etc - with a name like mary holmes it is very difficult any help would be so so so great,  Jen

[garstonite]

Do you have an occupation for John Holmes and where were John and Mary in the 1871 census ?
what year was Frank born and where ?
this info will help us in your research 
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ADDED -for other members
John Holmes and Mary Lightfoot married 10th jan 1861 in Warrington - John was 22 / Mary 21 - so Mary Holmes would be 40 in the 1881 census

John Holmes father was Alfred Holmes
Mary Lightfoot father was James Lightfoot

https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Ajohn~%20%2Bsurname%3Aholmes~%20%2Bmarriage_place%3Alancashire~%20%2Bmarriage_year%3A1850-1881~%20%2Bspouse_givenname%3Amary~%20%2Bspouse_surname%3Alightfoot~%20%2Brecord_country%3AEngland

[Jeni63]

yep 1871 shop 89 manchester lane and he is down as a painter, jen

[garstonite]

is this the baptism of Mary Lightfoot ?

Baptism: 14 Apr 1839 St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England
Mary Lightfoot - [Child] of James Lightfoot & Mary
    Abode: Angel Yard
    Occupation: Labourer
    Baptised by: T V Bayne

and John Holmes the week before - same church - now that is unusual

Baptism: 7 Apr 1839 St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England
John Holmes - [Child] of Alfred Holmes & Ellen
    Abode: Stoke Staffs
    Occupation: Linen Draper
    Baptised by: Geo Richards

[mosiefish]

yep 1871 shop 89 manchester lane and he is down as a painter, jen

89 is the schedule number not the number of the shop.

Mo

[Jeni63]

oops ta 

[Jeni63]

Garstonite that is correct - yep all info correct - she disappears after 1871 cant find her anywhere

[garstonite]

Have you found John Holmes in the 1881 census ?...being a painter he could have moved around
Walkden is not that far from Warrington = 16 miles
this is the only burial I can find for a Mary Holmes at the right age -

Burial: 1 May 1879 St Paul, Walkden, Lancashire, England
Mary Holmes -
    Age: 38 years
    Abode: Little Hulton
    Buried by: C. Heath
I would make a note of it for future reference ....

[Jeni63]

better than I found LOL - thank you will see if I can find john holmes 1881 ta jen