Alf Thomas - the Welsh Harry Lauder

[heywood]

Annie and William Poole married in 1926 at St Mark's, Glodwick, Oldham.

The only birth I can see for a John V Thomas is Sheffield 

[DebNZ]

I have John Victor's baptism - all four children were baptised together in 1920 when John Victor was born. He was definitely born 4 January 1920 and their father's occupation was given as "music hall". All four baptisms in Lancashire parish records.

I am interested in the 1911 census record you have seen the index for - I wish that I could see the actual census form!!  I have a friend in England with access to FindMyPast - mighty ask her if she can look at it for me.

[heywood]

The birth fits for John V. Perhaps, John Hugh was appearing in Sheffield and then they returned to Lancashire.
What church were they baptised at?

Unfortunately, we can't give more details from 1911

1901 3756/113/37
Folio:   113
i think this is the family in 1901
36 Whitland Street Harpurhey

John R Thomas   42 yrs
Jane H Thomas   42 yrs
Margaret Thomas 14 yrs
John H Thomas   12 yrs
Gwilym Thomas   9 yrs
Richard O Thomas 4 yrs

All born Anglesey- Amlwch except for father John R whose birthplace I cannot read except for 'Anglesey'

[despair]

The baptism is on www.lan-opc.org.uk,at St Stephen Harpurhey,but the parents are given as John  Hugh Thomas and MARY.

Regards
Roger

[DebNZ]

Yes - have seen the census now! Wow!  You have blown apart the older generation totally - my friend had entirely incorrect people as his gt grandparents. I wondered why nothing seemed to fit.  You have been wonderful - thank you so much!

[heywood]

The baptism is on www.lan-opc.org.uk,at St Stephen Harpurhey,but the parents are given as John  Hugh Thomas and MARY.

Regards
Roger

Oh heck!

[despair]

Strangely,though 4 children are baptised on the same day,two give Annie and two give Mary!

Regards
Roger

[heywood]

I was just going to point that out but maybe it is a transcription error

[DebNZ]

My friend knew all of the "children" as uncles and aunties.  His story is that John Hugh turned to drink and either wandered off and/or died of alcoholism.

It's more interesting than I thought!