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1891 lookup please! Gordon
« on: Tuesday 19 July 05 19:54 BST (UK) »
My 2G grandfather was a John Gordon, a Scot (not sure where from but born about 1847) who lived in Leicester. He was a draper and was living in Nuneaton at the time of his marriage to Elizabeth Muir in Largs in 1872. They show up in the 1881 census living in Leicester, St. Margaret, at 166 Humberstone Road with children Janet, Robert, Mary, Colin, Lillian and Elizabeth. Also with the family at that time, a servant Emily Tattersall, and brother in law John Muir, a hosery manufacturers clerk.

Can someone have a peek at the 1891 or 1901 census and see what's what with this family? I don't know if there were further children born to the family - the names I have were all from the 1881 information. Colin was my great grandfather, and he appears to have emigrated to Canada around 1900 or so, thus contact was lost by my father's generation and there is no one alive to ask!

Mary Gordon, Toronto

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Re: 1891 lookup please! Gordon
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 19 July 05 20:47 BST (UK) »
Greeting's & Welcome Mary.....

Update on your Family :-
1891. Census
RG 12 / 2527 / 28 / Page. 7.
Leicester.
St. Peter's Parish.

No. 40 Upper Kent Street.

John Gordon. Head. Mar. 43. Draper. b. Scotland.
Eliza Wife. 42.
Janet. M. 17.
Robert.. 16.
Collin. C. 13.Scholar. b. Leicester.
Lillian. J. 10.
Elizza. J.

No Mary found with the Family.

1901. Census.
RG 13 / 2998 / 117 / Page. 1.
St. Barnabas Parish.
Mere Road.
John Gordon. 54. Draper. Own account.  b Scotland.
Eliza. Wife. 52.
Janet. M/ 27.
Lillian. J. 21.
Lizzie. M. 16.

MIKE.
Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

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Isle of Wight.          Oxfordshire / Warwickshire.

Cassell.                   Powers. 
Draper.                   Hirons.
Combs.                   Botts.
Stallard.                 Hall.

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Re: 1891 lookup please! Gordon
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 20 July 05 00:49 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much! Poor wee Mary must have died.

Mary G.
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Re: 1891 lookup please! Gordon
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 20 July 05 12:27 BST (UK) »
Greeting’s Again Mary…….

Burials for Welford Road Cemetery…….

GORDON   MARY   30   NOV   1881   6   HUMBERSTONE ROAD   SAINT GEORGE   U   H   249   F   48004

There’s another interesting Burial with the same plot No.H 429. as Mary ? ….
GORDON   LOTTIE MAY   3   DEC   1883   5MTHS   HUMBERSTONE ROAD   SAINT GEORGE   U   H   249   F   52151

And again ?
GORDON   AGNES EDITH   18   AUG   1879   7MTHS   HUMBERSTONE ROAD   SAINT GEORGE   U   H   249   F   42794

©  Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2004.

MIKE.
Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

Researching :-

Isle of Wight.          Oxfordshire / Warwickshire.

Cassell.                   Powers. 
Draper.                   Hirons.
Combs.                   Botts.
Stallard.                 Hall.


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Re: 1891 lookup please! Gordon
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 20 July 05 13:05 BST (UK) »
Aren't you a peach! My Gordons have been a real curse.

Okay....so....any sign of Colin Campbell Gordon (born Jan 3 1878) as being still in Leicester in 1901? He married Mary Anne Wooley, we think about 1897 in Leicester. We presume a shotgun wedding, due to his very young age at marriage.

My grandfather, George Edward Gordon, was born in Leicester April 28 1898. His sister Lillian was born in 1899, and brother Campbell about 1900.....there were a total of seven children we know of born to the marriage, but we don't know when they emigrated, so I'm not sure which were born in the UK and which on this side of the Atlantic - we know Georgina, the youngest was born here in Ontario...since she was named after my grandfather, her big brother George, who was then away in WWI. Bit of an odd way to name a child, or what - a George and a Georgina like bookends on the children.

Mary Ann Wooley was born in 1874 according to her headstone which has no specific date (one of those silly flat bronze things in the ground, and the cemetery office in London Ontario has a specific date of death but not birth in their files). She may have been from Rutland, and a possible but not confirmed pair of parents for her are George Wooley and Jane Pyket. I haven't been able to find any other likely parents for her so far - we were told her father was a George.

Here is my file, with the living stripped out.
http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=mary_g

Anything I can search up for you in Canada, let me know!

Mary G.


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Re: 1891 lookup please! Gordon
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 21 July 05 00:37 BST (UK) »
Greeting's Again Mary...

There you Go.....

1901. Census. Monday 1st. April.
RG13 / 2996 / 38 / Page. 31.
Leicester North East.
St. Peter's Parish.
Formally St. Margaret's.

No, 102 Upper Kent Street.

Colin C. Gordon. Head. Mar. 25. Draper's Assistant. Worker. b. Leicester.
Mary. A. Wife. 24. b. Ashwell Rutland.
George. E. Son. 3. b Leicester.
Lilian. Dau. 1. b Leicester.

No sign of Campbell......

MIKE.....

P.S.
 I'm working on the others.....
I've got George & Jane Wooley and possible Father & Mother  to George  on the 1871.Census  In Ashwell. Rutland.
And in the next two Houses are  living  families of PYKETT's  !!!... 
Just need to find them on the next Census for 81. .....
Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

Researching :-

Isle of Wight.          Oxfordshire / Warwickshire.

Cassell.                   Powers. 
Draper.                   Hirons.
Combs.                   Botts.
Stallard.                 Hall.

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Re: 1891 lookup please! Gordon
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 21 July 05 04:16 BST (UK) »
This is very exciting - armed with confirmation of my great grandmother Mary Ann Wooley Gordon being from Ashwell and the child of George and Jane (which I suspected from the 1881 census but wasn't completely sure of), I did a run on the IGI and found a pedigree resource file belonging to a living Pykett currently residing in Nottingham. It is definitely the right family, and going back from the William Pykett and Mary Jane Cox I believe to be Jane's parents (thus my 3G grandparents), he has direct generations going back to around 1700, all in the Rutland and Leicester area.

This is just wonderful!

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Re: 1891 lookup please! Gordon
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 21 July 05 22:04 BST (UK) »
Greeting's Again  Mary......

Now......... You may already have the following information
But it's nice to  have another confirmation......

1851. INDEX ONLY Census.
2092 / 100 = Ashwell.
John Wolley. Head. 81.
Francis Woolley. 36.
Mary. A. Wife. 36.
Rebecca. Dau. 9.
GEORGE. Son. 6.
Mark. Son. 4.

1861. Census.
RG 9 / 2305 / 6 / Page. 5.
Ashwell.
Farm Hall.

Francis Wolley. Head. Mar. 47. Ag. Lab. b.. Ashwell. Rutland.
Mary. A. Wife. 46.
George. C. Son. 17. Blacksmith. b. Edith Weston. Rutland.

Marriage Found :-
20th. Feb. 1870.
Ashwell.
George Clark Wolley. ~ Jane Pykett.


1871. Census.
RG 10 / 3299 / 17 / Page. 5.
Ashwell.
The Cottages.

Francis Wooley. Head. Mar. 57. Blacksmith. b. Ashwell. Rutland.
Mary. Wife. 56. Blacksmith's Wife. b. Edith Weston. Rutland.
George Wooley. Son. 27. Blacksmith. b. Edith Weston.
Jane. wife.. 30. b. Ashwell. Rutland.
Francis. G/Son. 2 Months.

Next Door down. :-

William Pykett. WID. 60. Ag.Lab. b. Whissendine.Rutland.
James. Son. 35. Ag. Lab. b. Ditto.
Ann. Wife. 38. b. Exton. Rutland.
Horace. N. G'Son. 9. Scholar. b. Braunston Rutland.
Leland. G/Son. 3. Ditto. b. Ditto.

And next door to above.

Robert Pykett. 54. Ag. Lab. b. Ashwell. Rutland.
Mary Wife. 48. b. Ditto.

1881. Census.
RG 11 / 3186 / 5 / page. 3.
Ashwell.
George Wooley.Head. Mar. 37. Blacksmith. b. Edith Weston. Rutland.
Jane. Wife. 40. b. Ashwell. Rutland.
Francis. Son. 10. Scholar. b. Ditto.
Gertrude. Dau. 8. Ditto. b. Ditto.
MARY. A. Dau. 6. Ditto. b. Ditto.
Minnie. Dau. 5. Ditto. b. Ditto.
Harriet. Dau. 4. Ditto. b. Ditto.
Dora. Dau. 1. b. Ditto.

1891. Census.

RG 12. / 2547 / 6 / Pages. 3 ~ 4.
Ashwell.

George Wooley. Head. Mar. 48. Blacksmith. b. Edith Weston. Rutland.
Jane. Wife. 50.  b. Ashwell. Rutland.
Francis. Son. 20. Blacksmith. b. Ashwell. Rutland.
Mary. A. Dau. 17. b. Ditto.
Minnie. Dau. 15. Scholar. b. Ditto.
Harriet. Dau. 12. Ditto. b. Ditto.
Dora. Dau. 10. Ditto. b. Ditto.
Cycil./ Cyril ?  Son. 9. Ditto. b. Ditto.

MIKE.


Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

Researching :-

Isle of Wight.          Oxfordshire / Warwickshire.

Cassell.                   Powers. 
Draper.                   Hirons.
Combs.                   Botts.
Stallard.                 Hall.

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Re: 1891 lookup please! Gordon
« Reply #8 on: Friday 22 July 05 19:02 BST (UK) »
Well, as a result of your very kind and generous help....

Meet Edward Wooley and Susannah Baines, married in Braunston, Rutland in 1764, my 5G grandparents (taken back 4 generations from what I had been able to trace before you assisted with the census data)  AND also meet Robert Pykett and Mary Peet, married in Bottesford, Leicester in 1705, my 7G grandparents (6 generations back from what I had previously)!

Amazing what a few tidbits to confirm some details can unlock, isn't it! I can't thank you enough! What you gave me opened some floodgates of information.

Here is my file in case anyone wants a peek at Wooleys or Pyketts from the area. Now I've got the scaffolding in place to fill in more details with time.

Very, very much appreciated.

Mary Gordon
(proud daughter of Rutland, but didn't know it before the last fortnight!)
Toronto