albert and ethel howgego

[keyboard86]

Hi living next door I can see a John R Howgego 1877 and Annie 1880
Keyboard86

[ahowgego]

hi, you guys are great thank you.
i have traced my family line back to 1655, my GGfather was Henry/harry howgego
harry b 1873 d 1966 chelmsford
Parents M Eliza Morgan  25 oct 1840 and F Jeremiah 4 jun 1841 maningtree
he had 3 brothers and 2 sister ,
Albert was b 26th Feb 1871 mistley d 1953 manningtree.
would Albert be too old for the ww1 medal/
trying to find the right Albert to fit to the medal is key.
I bought the medal as i thought it cool with the same initial as me, and maybe return it to the right family.
i think the suffolk connection is not my man,

[ahowgego]

Could the brother of my ggf, be the same Albert in Suffolk as the ages are close, b 1871

[ahowgego]

just found out the my Albert from mistley married Alice d 1953 aged 82 mangintree. so not suffolk one,

[rosie99]

Just to add, I am not seeing a match on lives of WW1
https://livesofthefirstworldwar.org/search#Category=lifestories&FreeSearch=howgego&PageIndex=1&PageSize=20

[jonwarrn]

Seem to be four Albert Howgegos
Albert Ernest born Ipswich 1893 was a driver in the Royal Field Artillery. Medals cant be his.
Albert born 1888 Dagenham
Albert born 1870 or 1871 Mistley. Your relative? He is there on the electorals in 1918/19, is not an absent voter. So most unlikely to be him.
Albert Edward born 1869 Ipswich. He would have been in his mid to late forties in 1916/17. Doesn't seem to have been married at that time. Conscription was introduced in 1916, for men up to 41. I think the upper age limit may have been raised later.
Bearing in mind their ages and the fact that all the records for the man in the Beds Regt/Labour Corps just say he was Albert, seems less likely to the one from Ipswich than the one from Dagenham?

Family Search, Essex Parish Registers
Albert Howgego
Marriage: 15 Dec 1918, Dagenham, Essex
Residence: Of This Parish Chadwell Heath
Marital Status: Single
Spouse: Ethel May Warren
Spouse's Residence: Of This Parish Chadwell Heath
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Film Number: 001472207

That film number, 1472114, is for the parish church of Dagenham, St Peter and St Paul.
I know there are a couple of people on here who kindly do Essex parish register look ups. Maybe if you asked, one of them might be able to give you any further info on the marriage record?

[keyboard86]

just found out the my Albert from mistley married Alice d 1953 aged 82 mangintree. so not suffolk one,

Hi "Your Albert" looks to have married an Alice Maude Sadler March qtr 1900 Tendring 4a 606 in 1911 with Jeremiah by the looks of it.
He was a Blacksmith following him back funnily says born 14th December 1870 in 1939?


EDIT 1901 census

Jeremiah 60 occ Master Mariner (Retired) b Manningtree
Albert 30 Married occ Blacksmith b Mistley
John R 24 occ Labourer b Mistley
Alice 28 Married b Elmstead
Gertrude 25 Married b Chelmsford
Sidney 3 b London
Harry 2 b Chelmsford
Residing at Oxford Road, Railway Terrace,  Mistley
Census ref RG13/1701/28/9

John Robert Howgego has a British Army Service Record, he was in the 5th Battalion Essex Regiment Service Number 202249 aged 38, he looks to have served in the Labour Corps, no medals issued to him, Father & address as 1901 census
Keyboard86

PS just wondering why an Essex man would serve in Bedfordshire Labour Corps?

Daughter Alice Maude 1902 married a Stringer, is this correct?

Plus the daughter "Caroline"  marrying a Bartlett, where does this come from??

  How you have got back to 1655 without knowing the meaning of a reference ( Your reply 2) to a birth/marriage/death post 1837 makes me wonder just how many certificates you have obtained?

[jonwarrn]

PS just wondering why an Essex man would serve in Bedfordshire Labour Corps?

I think conscripted men had no choice as to what regiment they were in. They were probably sent to whichever regiment needed men most.
Albert must have been in the Bedfordshire Regiment originally, and was later transferred to the Labour Corps.
Wonder why he was discharged with wounds and given a silver war badge in 1919? Why would he need one then?

But there is no evidence that the Albert Howgego from Mistley was ever in the army, there is evidence that he wasn't in the army at the time the 1918 electoral register was compiled.

[ahowgego]

hi,
interesting look at the lives of the first war, i cant find my albert howgego #35916 there either, what would be the reason?
thats why i started looking at the other alberts,
most of my tree info comes from another lady tracing another branch back, i was filling in my branch .
i have the certs from my gg grand father that my mum got,
in the 1901 cenus jeremiah is my gg father. and sidney is my gfather.
 i am putting my tree up on wikitree.