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Re: Westmeath Registration Districts
« Reply #27 on: Friday 15 November 24 14:31 GMT (UK) »
Please see below from johngrenham.ie

When you click on the map (be aware, website provides max 5 free clicks/24 hours) you will see that Delvin district was intact into the 20th century

Registration District

As a result of the original arrangements for administering the system, the registration districts were, and still are, largely identical to the old Poor Law Unions. As these were based on natural catchment areas, normally consisting of a large market town and its rural hinterland, rather than on the already existing administrative divisions of townland, parish and county, registration districts for births, marriages and deaths cut right across these earlier boundaries - a fact that can be very significant for research. For example, Waterford registration district, centred in the town of Waterford, also takes in a large part of rural south Co. Kilkenny; Ballinasloe district contains areas in both south Roscommon and east Galway, Boyle includes parts of Roscommon and Sligo.

A Ireland-wide map of registration districts is on this site, here.

The only comprehensive guide to which towns and townlands are contained in each registration district is to be found in a series of pamphlets produced in the nineteenth century by the Registrar-General's Office for the use of each of the local registrars. These are collected as Townlands in poor law unions : a reprint of poor law union pamphlets of the general registrar's office with an introduction, and six appendices relating to Irish genealogical research, (repr. Ed. Handran, George B. 1997 Higginson, Salem Ma.) copies of which can be found in the National Library (reference: Ir 9141 b 35) or on Eneclann CD-ROM. .This work is particularly useful when a problem arises in identifying a variant version of a townland name given in the original register entry for a marriage, birth or death. By scanning the lists of townlands in the relevant district in which the entry is recorded, it is almost always possible to identify the standard version of the name and, from this, go on to census, parish and land records. A version of the pamphlets is the basis of this site's click-through Poor Law Union map.

To go in the other direction, to find out what registration district a particular town or townland is in, the standard source is the Alphabetical Index to the Towns, Townlands and Parishes of Ireland. Three editions of this were published, based on the census returns for 1851, 1871, and 1901. In the first two, the registration district is recorded as the Poor Law Union; in the 1901 Index it does not appear in the body of the work, but may be found as an appendix. Copies of these can be found on open access in the National Library, the National Archives, The General Register Office itself, or in any library. The 1851 is by far the most widely available, and an expanded version can be found here at www.johngrenham.com/places. The 1901 is on the Irish Genealogical Research Society website www.irishancestors.ie.


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Re: Westmeath Registration Districts
« Reply #28 on: Friday 15 November 24 17:47 GMT (UK) »
Gosh -- thank you so much for all this information.

I had forgotten all about this topic and had to go back to the start of it to see what it had been about!

Many thanks again for your very interesting contribution.
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Re: Westmeath Registration Districts
« Reply #29 on: Friday 15 November 24 18:54 GMT (UK) »
See here to find townlands or registration districts-
https://thecore.com/seanruad/
In almost all cases the P.L.U. (Poor Law Union) will be the same as the Registration District.

This site is also very useful to show registeration districts and their subdistricts, as well as what R.D.s are adjoining-
https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php
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« Reply #30 on: Saturday 16 November 24 10:40 GMT (UK) »
Thank you aghadowey. Very useful information.
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Re: Westmeath Registration Districts
« Reply #31 on: Friday 22 November 24 05:56 GMT (UK) »
May I just add to the debate on Delvin registry office, my family hail from Mayne, west of Delvin.  The office for Mayne is Granard in Longford however I had found some entries in the Delvin books.  Why or how I have no idea.

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Re: Westmeath Registration Districts
« Reply #32 on: Friday 22 November 24 10:58 GMT (UK) »
Mayne is in Westmeath and technically fell within the Granard PLU however given that Mayne is close to Castlepollard, in the Delvin PLU, and the importance of this Parish (which includes the civil parishes of Foyran, Rathgrave and Lickbla), some entries would be included in the Delvin PLU registries. See attached screenshot-Green, Delvin PLU, Pink, Granard PLU and Red is a tiny bit of Mullingar PLU. my ancestors also come from the grey area in between but are listed primarily in Delvin PLU

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Re: Westmeath Registration Districts
« Reply #33 on: Monday 07 July 25 04:42 BST (UK) »
There was no requirement to register births or deaths in what was the official registration district for a particular townland. Indeed, some people probably didn't even know which one was "theirs".

The registration offices tended to be in villages or near some other focal point, so it was a question of which location was most convenient. Maybe you were going to shop in registration district B, even though your "home' district was A, etc. etc.
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Re: Westmeath Registration Districts
« Reply #34 on: Monday 07 July 25 09:30 BST (UK) »
extract from Part 3, section 31 of "Act for the Registration of Births and Deaths in Ireland"
20th April 1863 (histpop.org/irishstatuebook etc)

"The Parents or Parent of any Child born in Jreland after the said Thirty-first Day of
December One thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, or, in case of the Death or Inability
of the Parents or Parent, the Occupier of the louse or Tenement in which to his or her
Knowledge such Child was born, or the Nurse or any Person present at the Birth of such
Child, shall, at any Time within Twenty-one Days next after the Day of such Birth, give
Notice thereof to the Registrar of the District within which such Child shall have been
born
; and such Parents and Persons above specified whether they have given such Notice
...."

The registrars had townland index books and up to date lists of electoral and dispensary districts

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Re: Westmeath Registration Districts
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 09 July 25 08:12 BST (UK) »
This page is useful for SRDs covering various counties. Sometimes an event could be registered in an adjoining county: https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/Ireland-civil-registration.html
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