Ramsey's in West Ham/Plaistow & Stepney - 1800's

[RamRod78]

Hi,

Looking to see if anyone else has some Ramsey family history in the Stepney & West Ham/Plaistow areas around the 1800's?

My paternal line goes back to a George William Ramsey b. 31 Aug 1878 in Stepney, London, son of William.  He moved to West Ham/Plaistow area in early 1900'S and married Jane Elizabeth Hutchines in 1904. 

I have good records from the marriage on, but cannot trace this line back any further.  I cannot find a birth record for George, nor can I find any census record prior to 1911.  It is likely he was working on ships and also illiterate. I have no other info on William other than his name.

So if anyone does have some Ramsey in their tree from Stepney or Plaistow in the 1800's, please get in touch

p.s. There is a George William b. Poplar in 1876, which is a different family line.  However, I am on ancestry and would love to build a tree of all the various Ramsey lines in the area, if it can help gather the bigger picture.

Cheers,
Iain

[suzard]

do you have the marriage certificate?? If so what is father's occupation and who were witnesses??

Was George William married previously ? or was Jane Elizabeth ??

there is a daughter Lizzie b c 1900 - pre George William and jane Elizabeth's marriage???

Suz

[RamRod78]

Hi, and thanks for the reply!

The father, William Ramsey, is recorded as a Railway Servant.

The witnesses were A.J.Ramsey and Eliza Ramsey, who i'm assuming were Brother and Sister/Sister-in-law/Mother.

Both previously unmarried.

Yes, I have Lizzie and their other children.... And can work back the Hutchines line.  I'm just stuck going back on the Ramsey line.

Thanks for your help!

[suzard]

do you have Lizzie's birth reg/baptism record - as it seems she was born c.1900 which was before the marriage

Suz

[RamRod78]

I can find no official birth record for Lizzie, only Census entries.... Living relatives have memory of her, and I will be trying to find out more from them.

[Lily M]

There's an Arthur J. Ramsey b.1876/78 Bow/lPlaistow, living in West Ham with wife, Eliza, in 1901 and 1911.

Haven't been able to connect him to George William yet though

[Lily M]

This might just be a coincidence, as there are a few Arthur and George Tuckers about.   And neither of the Ramsey boys mention Kentish Town

1891  West Ham  New Barn Street


Amongst others are:

William Ramsey  head  52  railway wagon inspector Glos.
Sarah  wife  38  London
7 children
Charles H Tucker step-son  16  Kentish Town
Arthur J        "         "          14    "
George W      "         "          12     "

[kanskar]

Marriage 1881 jun qtr

William Ramsey - Sarah Jane Tucker - Pancras 1b 172.

1881 census:
14 Grafton terrace, Kentish Town

Jane Tucker 30 b. Kentish Town
Cashiers Book Worker (says married)

Charles Tucker 6
Arthur Tucker 5
George Tucker 2
All born Kentish Town

Poss birth reg:
George William Tucker
Dec 1878 Qtr - Pancras 1b 139


Can't see a Tucker marriage to a Sarah Jane in Pancras in the 1870s, however have seen:

Birth reg - St Pancras Dec 1850 Qtr
Sarah Jane Tucker 1 311

[suzard]

wonder if this is William in 1881?
104 Weedington Rd Kentish Town
William Ramsey widower 40 Wagon repairer Kempsford Glos
Lancelot son 15 Kempsford GloErnest son 10 Kentish Town
William H son 6 Kensington
Rose daughter 4 Kensington
RG11 217 119 45

Suz