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Perry family please
« on: Monday 04 April 16 17:17 BST (UK) »
Good afternoon,

I have researched a bit of my Perry family but have come against a brick wall.

My 2x Great grandmother, Emily Perry, was born 1862, I have found a census 1871 which may be her as an Inmate in Pewsey and another in 1881, which may also be her as a servant in Kingston upon Thames.

Emily had 2 son's, Francis Willie Perry 1887 Pewsey and Frederick James Perry 1894 Marlborough, (both illegitimate) and in 1897 Emily married James Rudman. Her marriage certificate states she is a spinster aged 36 and her fathers name has been put as SILAS PERRY, witnesses were Charles Perry & Lucy Ann Perry. I have not been able to find any reference to a Silas Perry

The 1901 census has Francis & Frederick down as W Son, which I believe must be Wifes Son... Emily (Emma), James and their own child Joseph S Rudman 11mths

1911 census has Emma Rudman - Nurse aged 49, born Manningford with a Ms Lucy Waight, she has been married 12 years and had 7 children, 5 still living, 2 dead

1911 census James Rudman, married 12 years, 4 children, 2 still living, 2 dead..Frederick Perry 17, Joseph Rudman 11 and Winnie Rudman 9.

Francis Willie Perry left the UK sometime around 1909-1911 and went to the USA and I have the info on Frederick J Perry (my great grandfather).

please could I have help regarding Silas Perry and any info for Francis W Perry who I could not find in 1891.

Many thanks for any help.
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Re: Perry family please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 04 April 16 17:35 BST (UK) »
Have you got Emily and Francis Willie in 1891? I'm not immediately spotting them.
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Re: Perry family please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 04 April 16 17:39 BST (UK) »
There is a Charles and Lucy Ann Perry in Wiltshire on censuses.
Tracing Charles back, he is on 1861 at RG9 1307 112 6, and does have a sister Emily aged 2. Father however is Thomas not Silas.
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Re: Perry family please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 04 April 16 18:00 BST (UK) »
Hello Lizdb...No I have not got Emily or Francis in 1891, and yes I also saw that Charles Perry, I did think maybe Silas was meant to be Thomas, and maybe the Emily aged 2 died and the parents had another daughter in 1862, but all speculations.

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Re: Perry family please
« Reply #4 on: Monday 04 April 16 18:33 BST (UK) »
Hi I presume you have looked at the marriage of Charles Perry to Lucy Ann White December qtr 1878 Pewsey to see who Charles gives as his father?
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Re: Perry family please
« Reply #5 on: Monday 04 April 16 19:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Keyboard86,

No I haven't, can I view online or will I need to send for it? I have looked at the marriage on a tree on Ancestry and the father for Charles is down as Thomas. But I still cannot confirm she is a sister, she could be a cousin.

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« Reply #6 on: Monday 04 April 16 19:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Keyboard86,

No I haven't, can I view online or will I need to send for it?

Thank you

Hi I cannot locate online,  unless someone can, otherwise I would suggest this has to be a possible purchase, as to have these two people as witnesses to the marriage of Emily seems too much of a coincidence?!
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PS do not trust others research, does the family tree you looked at have the actual marriage in detail?
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Re: Perry family please
« Reply #7 on: Monday 04 April 16 19:20 BST (UK) »
yes I shall send of for it....if Thomas is down as his father, shall have a re-think, as I would of thought then she should have known her fathers name was Thomas, unless it was transcribed wrong on hers...would that be a possibility?

thank you
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Oswald (SCT: )
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Joseph (Carmarthanshire / Brecon)
Price (Brecon)
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« Reply #8 on: Monday 04 April 16 19:22 BST (UK) »
 :) OK does the same family tree have the marriage of Emily?
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