Edward Wotton

[Neil Todd]

Seems that there were a few WHITE family members from County Clare Immigrated to Australia.

Have you seen this site? http://www.irelandxo.com/ireland/clare/rath/message-board/white-family

You can do a search of all the households for the surname WHITE in County Clare there are 63. As we don't have Elizabeth/Eliza Whites parents names you will have to search. it is a pay site however.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hcv/

Can i ask please Jessie's Mum, if you could put ALL the information you hold into your original post we can move forward much more quickly also any past posts re the same people should have the link inserted. If you are unsure just let us know and we can try and get over the little bumps.

The Clare county board should be able to dig out the Maiden name of Eliza's Mother and possible Aunts and Uncles.

Neil

[Jessies Mum]

Thank you for the advice Neil, I wasn't aware of the site you have mentioned, so will be definitely heading to check that out.

As for the surname of Elizabeth's mother, I have attached the snippet from the marriage certificate - hopefully that may be of assistance.

[majm]

My suggested transcription:

John WILLIAMS
Clara WILLIAMS
Francis WHITE
Michael HAINE   (an alternative as KAINE)


I have seen Frances for males and Francis for females, although the spelling is more usually vice versa.   

add PS, unusual order to those names .... I was expecting it to be: Male, Female, Male, Female.   I have not ever considered Michael to be a female name.   

Fingers crossed.

Cheers,  JM

[sparrett]

I think it is clear from your previous thread and this post from Cando-

TOOHEY's were at the South Melbourne hotel in 1861 and the licence was transferred to Mr WOTTON in July 1866.


that Edward WOOTON (above) is not the husband of the aunt at the Great Britain in Richmond.
So I am not sure why you are still searching for a man named Edward WOOTON

Searching for information surrounding Edward Wotton and his wife.  From 1866 he became the proprietor of the Great Britain Hotel in Richmond, Melbourne, Victoria.
 

Edward Bushell WOOTON is not connected to your family based on the information to date.
He was insolvent in December 1865, was of Sandridge and had been licensee of a number of hotels in the (now) South Melbourne area.  So wrong man, wrong hotel.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/5763616

Sue

[sparrett]

I think HAINE will be correct.

Here it is used in the given names of one of thecouple's children born in SA

1885 WILLIAMS John Haines
Parents Matthew WILLIAMS and Elizabeth WHITE
At  Grey  343/338   

Sue

[Jessies Mum]

Thank you Sue for your advice, however Haines was from the Williams side of the family and had been used in naming a generation previous to that and is NOT connected to Elizabeth White herself (other than once she married into the Williams family).  Therefore the name in the signatures may be a pure coincidence.

As stated earlier in this post Sue, Mrs Wooton of Richmond was the person named on the immigration form relevant to Elizabeth - this is why I have been asking questions around this name as I had been informed on a previous post from Cando that Edward Wotton was the licensee in 1866 and Elizabeth arrived in 1870 when her Aunt was the proprietress.  I am just seeking information to establish if this is indeed Elizabeth's Aunt and possibly learning more.

[sparrett]

In this quote from your previous thread, Cando says ......

There were three hotels with the name Great Britain Hotel in the period - Flinders Street, Melbourne; Clarendon Street, South Melbourne and Richmond.

The licence of the Great Britain in Richmond was transferred from Matthew TOOHEY to Edward WOTTON on 23 July 1866 so perhaps the TOOHEYs left for Sydney around this time.

Cando

In this quote Cando corrects the location to South Melbourne, not Richmond
 

TOOHEY's were at the South Melbourne hotel in 1861 and the licence was transferred to Mr WOTTON in July 1866.

Cando

In this quote you say Elizabeth was destined for the Great Britain Hotel in  RICHMOND.
It is not the same hotel as the one in South Melbourne.

Hi all,
I know all previous messages around this are from some time back, but I have just discovered Eliza's immigration record finally.
She was off to Richmond, Melbourne - exactly where the Great Britain Hotel was (and still is) located.
I feel like I've struck gold!
Just wanted to share this with you all - it certainly looks like Wotton is the name she is employed by!

Mrs WOOTON was the proprietress of the Great Britain Hotel in RICHMOND No doubt she was Elizabeth’s aunt, but no evidence she was connected to anyone named Edward WOOTON. He was possibly the licensee of the hotel of the same name in Sandridge, not RICHMOND
 

As stated earlier in this post Sue, Mrs Wooton of Richmond was the person named on the immigration form relevant to Elizabeth - this is why I have been asking questions around this name as I had been informed on a previous post from Cando that Edward Wotton was the licensee in 1866 and Elizabeth arrived in 1870 when her Aunt was the proprietress.  I am just seeking information to establish if this is indeed Elizabeth's Aunt and possibly learning more.

Sue

[mollipops1]

Okay I'm confused.

So we know Edward WOTTON/WOOTTON was in Sandridge (Port Melbourne), that he became licencee of the Great Britain Hotel in 1866, but died in 1869. His wife remarried in 1870 and stayed in the Sandridge area.

The question then is did Elizabeth WHITE's 1870 immigration record specifically state she was going to work for a Mrs WOTTON in RICHMOND??

There was another WOTTON/WOOTTON couple as I mentioned on page 1, who lived in Richmond around this period.

I think there are still more questions here than answers! 

[mollipops1]

Just checked her obit again and it says
"After staying with her aunt, who was the proprietress of the Great Britain Hotel in Melbourne"

So she stayed there...doesn't say she worked there. And it says Melbourne so could be Richmond, or could be Sandridge (the latter being closer to where her ship would have arrived).

I'm assuming that the immigration record doesn't specifically say she is arriving to work for her aunt? So even if it states she was arriving to work for Mrs WOTTON of Richmond, this could have been as a housekeeper/maid in a private dwelling...