Willaim Horton lookup request please.

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Ok, thanks for the Christenings and now i know that Lydia married Thomas Matthews.

Back later.

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1841 Census
Wigginton, Oxfordshire
HO107/875/19/Wigginton
William Horton, 48, Farmer
Helen Horton, 45
James Horton, 46
All NOT born in County

Image for Williams age is blurry so may be incorrect.

Marriage Reg 1842 Banbury;
William Perrott Horton and Mary Apletree on same page


1851 Census
HO107/1733/61/4
William Perrott HORTON, 64, Head, Mar, Farmer 167 Acres, born Sutton Under Brailes, Worcestershire
Mary, 50, Wife, Mar, born Banbury, Oxfordshire
Thomas Appletree, 20, Son in Law (Stepson), Unm, Farmer, born Banbury
Hannah Morgan, 14, Servant

1861 he is William Parriott Horton born 1787 Sutton, Gloucestershire

Death Reg;
Name: William Perrott Horton
Registration Year:    1862
Registration Quarter:    Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:    Banbury, 3a 378

Have no idea if he is yours but Occp matches.

Who were the Witnesses to the 1839 Marriage of Lydia?

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1851 Census Helen/James from 1841 Census are still in Wigginton;
James born c 1790 Evenlaod, Worcs, Occp Farmers Bailiff
Helen, Sister born c 1789 Evenload
Both Unmarried

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I confess that I've been terribly confused too until some clarification in your last posting.

Since online records for Oxfordshire are virtually non-existent it's hard to confirm the details for marriages/baptisms you quote.  Where did you get the information of the 2 baptisms for Lydia and James?

Since there is no sign of William and Ann Horton in census records one presumes both were deceased by 1841.

How do you know there was a sister Mary and a brother William anyway?

(A Mary Ann Horton was baptised 27/4/1815 Birmingham dau. of a William and Ann but this William was just a labourer, not a farmer) but no William with these parents)

Annette

Hi, i am sorry for the confusion, i should have been more precise. I have a relation in York who descends from Mary Horton, where as i descend from Lydia.

William Horton  (labourer) m Ann Willis (Lodger) st Aldate Oxford 1811. Lydia and James parents.
In the 1841 census Oxford Lydia Hortons brother James bapt 1819 and Thomas bapt 1824 are living in the household of William and Anne Willis in their 70s so i am assuming grandparents.Lydia was married by then.
Ann Horton (Willis) married again to

George Washbrook shoemaker  wid marry Ann Horton  12-6-1838, witness Jonathan Temple.(from OFHS ) They moved to Birmingham.

The Temple family were living in Oxford for the 1841 census, and probably 1838 and one of their sons Newlands was born then in Oxford,then they were in York by the 1851 census.

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Lydia Horton m Thomas Matthews                  Mary Horton m Jonathan Temple
1839 St Michaels Oxford                                 1834 St Cuthberts York

Elizabeth Lydia Matthews dau        married      Alfred Charles Temple  son   


MaryTemple (Horton) died 1-7-1878 age 64 which puts her birth 1814ish. I have a copy of a rememberence card from family documents kept. It was also suggested from the OFSH that there is a good probability that Mary was a daughter of William and Ann Horton as he suggested from the info he gave me that they spent a significant time away from Oxford and it was unusual that they waited until 1817 to have first child Lydia. There is also a death for a William Horton 1838 age 25 St Ebbe Oxford which could be the missing son William if there was one. but no Birth for Mary or William in Oxford.


I know quite a bit of this is speculation with out proof, but a lot sort of fits with the Horton-Temples, considering Jonathan Temple was a witness to Ann Hortons second marriage,and  by then he was married to Mary Horton. I suppose i have confused you more, i just about confused myself.


                                                             

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I confess that I've been terribly confused too until some clarification in your last posting.

Since online records for Oxfordshire are virtually non-existent it's hard to confirm the details for marriages/baptisms you quote.  Where did you get the information of the 2 baptisms for Lydia and James


                                                           
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Hi, i got the bapts for Lydia Horton and James Horton from OFHS. I asked them for a search.They are very helpful . It has taken me nearly 2 years to find any record of Lydia birth then someone finally put me on to OFHS. thanks. I have all the info on Lydia Horton i need. It was mainly to try and prove either way if Mary Horton was indeed Lydia sister. there are things pointing to it but no proof. My relation who descends from Mary has the marriage of Mary in 1834 but no parent mentioned. thanks again.