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Re: Trying to find information on husband's grandparents and greatgrandparents
« Reply #9 on: Friday 25 March 16 14:44 GMT (UK) »
The attached newspaper clipping was published on a Saturday, counting back to Wednesday makes the date of the marriage July 16, 1913.  Wonder where the name Ida came from?

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« Reply #10 on: Friday 25 March 16 15:01 GMT (UK) »
The attached birth fits with the 8 month old James Francis Weir found in the 1861 census.  The paper was published on a Wednesday so birth was on October 21, 1915.

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« Reply #11 on: Friday 25 March 16 15:14 GMT (UK) »
This birth is a puzzle, we know there was a daughter Margaret Mary born about 1914, suspect paper had gender wrong.  Birth day June 2, 1914.

Issues of the Strathmore Standard from January 1919 not found on Peel's Prairie Provinces so no luck finding Lerna Lee. 

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Re: Trying to find information on husband's grandparents and greatgrandparents
« Reply #12 on: Friday 25 March 16 17:31 GMT (UK) »
Stranger and stranger. Now the name Ida.. I have a deceased aunt also named Georgina and she was always called Ina. Wonder if Ida was just another diminutive. Interesting how the birth notices are written. All this wonderful information is making my husband more interested in his family background . Thank you.
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Re: Trying to find information on husband's grandparents and greatgrandparents
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 03 May 16 20:29 BST (UK) »
Hi, I just came across your entry about Georgina Ross Cooper.  I am Georgina Ross Cooper's Great niece.
Georgina Ross Cooper was the illegimate child of my great grandmother Margaret Clark Cooper.  Georgina was born in New Pitsligo, Scotland in 1890. She moved to Canada with her husband Ernest Barclay and their 3 children in 1920.
Hope this helps
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Re: Trying to find information on husband's grandparents and greatgrandparents
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 04 May 16 01:18 BST (UK) »
rodneycatt - oh dear, knew something wasn't right when I read your posting as how could Georgina Cooper be married to Orin Weir and Ernest Barclay at the same time!
 
The Georgina's here would appear to be 2 separate people and it would appear that your information re. your Georgina's origins is incorrect.    Oh why did it have to be me to find this out!

Have looked at the marriage certificate (16/7/1909) St. Nicholas, Aberdeen between Ernest Ross Barclay and Georgina Cooper.  and Georgina is shown as aged 20, BUT she is shown as the daughter of George Cooper, Mason (journeyman) and Margaret Cooper, nee Wood - I then subsequently looked for her on the census for 1891 and she is with her parents in Old Machar, Aberdeen and various siblings living at Donald's Place, Forbes Street, Aberdeen.

Your Georgina Cooper (birth and marriage as plain Georgina) was born 9th May 1889 Old Machar, Aberdeen at the address where her family were living on 1891 census and her birth certificate shows her parents George Cooper and Margaret Wood married 8th December 1877 Ellon, Aberdeen (when George married Margaret he was 34 and a widower, she 27 spinster).

George Coopers first wife would appear to be a Margaret Robb whom he married 1866 St. Nicholas, Aberdeen and she died in 1875.

George himself was born circa 1843 Inverurie, Aberdeenshire to Robert Cooper and Elizabeth Robb.  I wonder if he and his first wife Margaret were possibly related.

I really am so sorry to destroy your believed family history re. your Georgina Cooper and hope what I have related to you above will ensure you can now proceed down the right path.  As I said earlier, you can easily confirm what I say by looking at the relevant certificates on Scotlands People.    In this instance, the most important one being the marriage certificate of Ernest Ross Barclay and Georgina Cooper which confirms that your Georgina was not the illeg. dau. of Margaret Clark Cooper and was in fact born (a year earlier) lawfully to George Cooper and Margaret, nee Wood.

You do not have to just take my word for all of this.   You can view copies of the relevant certificates on Scotlands People by purchasing credits.   I can only assume Ernest Ross Barclay and your Georgina Cooper's marriage certificate of 1909 has never been looked at before and that somehow the Georgina Ross Cooper of this thread born 24/11/1890 New Pitsligo has been believed to be the one who married Ernest - perhaps because of the Ross in her name.

However, your Georgina was not illegitimate, was born 9/5/1889 Old Machar, Aberdeen to parents George Cooper, Mason and Margaret Cooper, nee Wood and her birth and marriage are as plain Georgina.   Perhaps she added the Ross (from her fathers name) to her own name later.

Think I'll now lock myself away in a darkened room to recover!

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Re: Trying to find information on husband's grandparents and greatgrandparents
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 04 May 16 06:24 BST (UK) »
Thank you Annette for fixing that up. Just quickly read rodneycatt details yesterday but was a bit busy to reply. Easy to make a mistake. Am sure I have Georgina's info correct now and plan to visit her parents' graves very soon.
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Re: Trying to find information on husband's grandparents and greatgrandparents
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 04 May 16 06:45 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I agree the marriage to Ernest could be wrong so I will check that. But I do know that my Georgina Ross Cooper  was the illegimate child of Margaret Clark Cooper my Great Grandmother. As I have her her birth details and she was on the 1911 Census living with My Great Grandparents Francis Irvine Grant and Margaret Clark Cooper and my grandfather William Alexander Grant and Great Aunt Mary Anderson Grant.
On this census Georgina was down as Step-daughter to the head of house.
I also have a photograph of the family all together.
Hope this clarify a few things
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Re: Trying to find information on husband's grandparents and greatgrandparents
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 04 May 16 08:26 BST (UK) »
Rodneycatt I do think we have a match. How can I personal message you to give you some information?
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