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Offline stanmapstone

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Re: Ancestry ascribing a race and colour to the long dead
« Reply #9 on: Friday 18 March 16 14:48 GMT (UK) »
If you go to http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hac/  you will see one version, clicking on her name gives you the other version https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5MF-MY8

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Re: Ancestry ascribing a race and colour to the long dead
« Reply #10 on: Friday 18 March 16 16:02 GMT (UK) »
"Ancestry ascribing a race and colour to the long dead" Just to say it is not Ancestry, these are records from LDS.
Film 584012 https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/92545?availability=Family%20History%20Library
Film 583999 https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/103836?availability=Family%20History%20Library

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Re: Ancestry ascribing a race and colour to the long dead
« Reply #11 on: Friday 18 March 16 16:20 GMT (UK) »
I am gobsmacked.And how have they verified this?? Don't know what they think they are doing, unless they are now being sponsored by some really dodgy political group.This is my search result for a quaker burial/death;

Name; Jennet Wilson
Gender; ( I think they mean sex) Female
 Race; ( do they mean colour of skin?) White
Age; 60
 Birthdate; ( I presume they mean birth year approximate) 1718
Deathdate; 6 Sep 1778
  Gender is more accurate than your interpretation of alternative word.
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Re: Ancestry ascribing a race and colour to the long dead
« Reply #12 on: Friday 18 March 16 16:24 GMT (UK) »
It is not PC now to use sex.
Gender, the state of being male or female as expressed by social or cultural distinctions and differences, rather than biological ones; the collective attributes or traits associated with a particular sex, or determined as a result of one's sex. Also: a (male or female) group characterized in this way. OED
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Re: Ancestry ascribing a race and colour to the long dead
« Reply #13 on: Friday 18 March 16 16:27 GMT (UK) »
To the Question Sex?    some people may answer with Celibate.
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Re: Ancestry ascribing a race and colour to the long dead
« Reply #14 on: Friday 18 March 16 17:22 GMT (UK) »
I'm not sure why the OP is getting tetchy about the labels describing the data.  It's quite clear what each piece of data represents (at least in the example quoted) so perhaps feathers would be less ruffled if there were no labels at all?

If the objection is to the data itself, that may be different ....
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Re: Ancestry ascribing a race and colour to the long dead
« Reply #15 on: Friday 18 March 16 17:48 GMT (UK) »

I have been transcribing South African Death Notices for Family Search and on none of the index cards that have to be filled in is there a space for Gender or Race even though they often appear on the Notice itself. 

Perhaps each data set has it's own requirements that need to be included.

Paylet, Pallatt, Morris (Russia, UK) Burke, Hillery, Page, Rumsey, Stevens, Tyne/Thynne(UK)  Landman, van Rooyen, Tyne, Stevens, Rumsey, Visagie, Nell (South Africa)