The Mannix Family Newington.

[groom]

I'm having problems finding Ellen Mannix before her marriage to Charles John Allwood on 14 Nov 1874 at Emmanuel, Camberwell.

I have her baptism on 4 Dec 1852  at Walworth St Peter where her father is given as Michael Mannix a plasterer.

I think I've found the Mannix family, before her birth, in the 1851 census in Islington. If correct her father was born abt 1817 in Ireland and is a plasterer and her mother Mary abt 1818 in Lambeth. That fits with the marriage I have for Michael Mannix (plasterer) and Mary Mason on 2nd November 1841. Other children in 1851 were John 1842 Lambeth: Joseph 1843 Walworth:Mary 1848 Lambeth and Jane 1850 Islington. ( names fit as Michael's father was called John and Mary's father was called Joseph)

I can't find the family in 1861 or 1871.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks

Jan

[Kay99]

This may not help but the last address I can see for them is Lorrimore St in Newington in Feb 1858 when their daughter Catherine was baptised

Kay

[rachelralph]

there is a josh mannix in the 1861 census on board ship as boy 2nd class. born in newsnignton (newington) in 1844. its a possible for your joseph as i dont see it as josh but it could be jos??

Class: RG 9 Piece: 4493 Folio: 28 Page: 8

[groom]

Thank you, those are worth following up.

I think I've found Michael and Mary with son John aged 2 months in 1841. It looks as if he was born before their marriage and they were living together, the name has been transcribed as Mannach and Michael as Michel.

[groom]

This may not help but the last address I can see for them is Lorrimore St in Newington in Feb 1858 when their daughter Catherine was baptised

Kay

They seem to have gone from there by 1861!

[jonwarrn]

Did Mary Mannix remarry in 1860 to John Pope?
If so, you could try looking for Ellen as Pope, is a possibility in Newington in 1861.

[groom]

Did Mary Mannix remarry in 1860 to John Pope?
If so, you could try looking for Ellen as Pope, is a possibility in Newington in 1861.

Thank you, that looks a distinct possibility, as Michael and Mary Mannix had daughters Elizabeth and Catherine that fit the ages of the two other children on the 1861 census. There is a death of a Michael Mannix in Holborn in 1858.