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John Edward Blake
« on: Wednesday 16 March 16 09:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I am trying to find if the above named had a will when he died.  I have emailed the probate court in NSW and they tell me they have done a quick search for him but they can't find a probate will for him.  So this would mean he died intestate, but they sent me a link to another gov party, to see if they have details or maybe he made a will but it wasn't granted etc and they sent me a 10 page form to fill in, its very confusing so wondered if anyone has an idea how to go about checking this out.
John Edward Blake was born March 1881 in Adrigole, Cork, Ireland and was called over to Gundagai, Gilmore, NSW by his aunt in c1908 when her husband died and for John to work the farm she owned.
John inherited the farm when his aunt died in 1935.  John died in 1951 age 72 of a heart attack I am told.  I do know that his brother William still living in Cork was receiving some kind of payments from either John's estates or from an administrator of his estate but these payments ceased (I believe) just before William died in 1955.
My question is what were the payments for and from whom after John Edward Blake died.  I know that John lived with a Julia Blake who was about 10 years his senior and was was his cousin (Julia's father was the stepbrother of the aunt of John), so really Julia was John's half cousin??
Julia survived John but died in Dec 1953.  There is a probate for Julia but I haven't yet ordered that.  Julia's siblings died after her.  Julia had one sister named Ellen who married Mr Begg and had 3 daughters.  Ellen died in 1971.
This is all the more confusing as I found that Julia's father John Galway Blake died in 1880 age 55 in Gundagai, and the will was, it says, granted in 1881, but then it states (DBN granted Sept 1974) which is nearly 100 years after John Galway Blake's death.  His wife Ellen died in 1920 in Gundagai. 
John Galway Blake's grandson Edward John (not to be confused with John Edward) who outlived all the family bar his sister, died in 1973 and his probate was granted in Aug 1974, the same year as his grandfather's (is this a coincidence?).  Edward John's sister Theresa Blake died in 1983 but can't find out where, she never married.  I cant find a probate for her either.
So can anyone tell me where/who I enquire to to find out if John Edward Blake died intestate and also why the above 2 probates were granted in same year when deaths were nearly 100 years apart.
Many thanks in advance.
Catherine
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Re: John Edward Blake
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 March 16 10:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi Catherine,
   You can search for most NSW probates here http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/  But there is an annoying gap in the probates index 1891-c1927 which can only be checked on microfiche at SRO.

   I try to get there about once a month to photo probates etc for rootschatters so I can photograph
Julia's for you.

   Let me see if I can find any others ...

   regards,
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adding : Edward John BLAKE
 http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Entity.aspx?Path=\Item\1488718
    Julia BLAKE
http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Entity.aspx?Path=\Item\839421
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Re: John Edward Blake
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 March 16 10:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi Catherine was John's Aunt, Emily BLAKE died Goulburn NSW 1935?

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Re: John Edward Blake
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 March 16 10:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ros
Yes, I have found a few probate packets but never actually purchased any as yet.  That would be great if you could do that Ros!! Thank you so much for offering.  I look forward to anything you can find out about any of the ones I mentioned.  I didn't realise there was a huge gap in those years either.  The Edward John Blake and Theresa Blake I mentioned were the grandchildren of John Galway Blake and Ellen Norton both born in Gundagai.  The parents of Edward and Theresa was Samuel Blake and Matilda Battye. Samuel married, b1877 d1961, Gundagai.  Samuel's sister Julia single, b1869 d1953, Redfern (this is the one mentioned on earlier msg), sister Ellen Begg married, b1873 d1971 in Lismore, brother James single, b1871 d1966, Gundagai, Charles think single,  b1879 d1970, Gundagai.   
Obviously I'm not asking you to research more than one of these but if you do come across any of them, please let me know.  The main ones are Julia Blake and John Edward Blake.
Thanks once more.  People really are so kind and helpful on rootschat!
Regards
Catherine
Places:  Dublin, Stamullen, Julianstown, Meath, Shelvins in Monaghan, Donnybrook, Holywell Wales, Greenfield Wales, Baguilt Wales, Chester, Over in Cheshire, Tarporley in Cheshire, Bolton, Manchester UK, Clitheroe, Yorkshire West Riding, Bradford Yorks, Shipley Yorks

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Re: John Edward Blake
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 March 16 10:52 GMT (UK) »
here is an obit to John in case you don't have it http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article145579391

here is index to intestate cases http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/searchform.aspx?id=53&new=1

Probates after 1976 can only be found on microfiche index at SRO - I can check when I am there

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Re: John Edward Blake
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 March 16 10:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Catherine was John's Aunt, Emily BLAKE died Goulburn NSW 1935?

Neil

Hi Neil
No I'm sorry John's aunt was Elizabeth Blake who married a Richard Marshall in  Gundagai.
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Catherine
Places:  Dublin, Stamullen, Julianstown, Meath, Shelvins in Monaghan, Donnybrook, Holywell Wales, Greenfield Wales, Baguilt Wales, Chester, Over in Cheshire, Tarporley in Cheshire, Bolton, Manchester UK, Clitheroe, Yorkshire West Riding, Bradford Yorks, Shipley Yorks

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Re: John Edward Blake
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 March 16 11:03 GMT (UK) »
here is an obit to John in case you don't have it http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article145579391

here is index to intestate cases http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/searchform.aspx?id=53&new=1

Probates after 1976 can only be found on microfiche index at SRO - I can check when I am there

regards
   Ros
Hi again Ros,
No I hadn't seen this so thanks so much for that, very interesting.
I just checked the intestate and couldn't find him on that list so I have no idea what could have happened to his assets but I wonder who was sending over paychecks to his brother William.  He had 4 siblings though but only mentions William, sister Elizabeth Cole in USA and his sister Margaret Reardon who he travelled out to NSW with in first place.  Margaret was single when they arrived but married around 1917 in Gundagai, his sister Mary died in 1943 in USA single and no children.
Anyway thanks Ros I really appreciate anything you can find.
Regards
Catherine
Places:  Dublin, Stamullen, Julianstown, Meath, Shelvins in Monaghan, Donnybrook, Holywell Wales, Greenfield Wales, Baguilt Wales, Chester, Over in Cheshire, Tarporley in Cheshire, Bolton, Manchester UK, Clitheroe, Yorkshire West Riding, Bradford Yorks, Shipley Yorks

Surnames:  Griffith, Smy(i)th, McCormack, Stynes, McCabe, Howley, Raistrick, Laycock, Harding, Livesey, Unsworth, Hardin/en, Davies, Roberts, Johnson, Fielding

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Re: John Edward Blake
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 16 March 16 11:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi Catherine,
   I'm happy to photograph anything we find  :)

   But it's late now and I'm fading fast ....  :( I'll look again in the morning.

   And I'm sure others will find more too.  :)

cheers,
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Re: John Edward Blake
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 16 March 16 11:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ros,
I'm sure you must be shattered, it must be around gone 11pm, don't worry I can wait and thank you.
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Catherine
Places:  Dublin, Stamullen, Julianstown, Meath, Shelvins in Monaghan, Donnybrook, Holywell Wales, Greenfield Wales, Baguilt Wales, Chester, Over in Cheshire, Tarporley in Cheshire, Bolton, Manchester UK, Clitheroe, Yorkshire West Riding, Bradford Yorks, Shipley Yorks

Surnames:  Griffith, Smy(i)th, McCormack, Stynes, McCabe, Howley, Raistrick, Laycock, Harding, Livesey, Unsworth, Hardin/en, Davies, Roberts, Johnson, Fielding