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Offline MartynS

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Re: Can you colour a faded photo of the Thornton Family?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 16 March 16 10:49 GMT (UK) »
Learning photo manipulation programs can take a long time.  The first thing is learning to work with layers. 

You are probably better trying to work at repairing scratches etc first by using the scratch remover and clone tools, and then working at replacing damaged areas.  It is always worth getting the picture in the best possible condition before starting to color it.

Once you master that and get the hang of it, you should move on to coloring.

With coloring, it is best to have the highest resolution scan, and then convert the picture to grayscale before converting back to color and starting to color it.

Coloring a picture can often take 3-4 hours, and with practise you will learn the colors to use for faces/skin, gold buttons etc.  To start with, it comes with trial and error.

There is no quick fix when learning photo manipulation.  It takes a lot of time and practise.  Why not try having a go on some of the pictures posted on the board.

There are some good tutorials on You Tube.

By the way - For a first attempt at coloring your picture, you have done really well and should be pleased with yourself.

Steve


Good advice there from Steve and not much to add other than i personally use Photoshop CC or PS6. I also very much do everything manual down to using the selection tool rather than lasso - then i refine the edges (refine selction option). As Steve says layers is key, and dont be afraid to add more layers to one selection - especially as your learning colours. Again echoing Steve, it takes time and practice and playing to get a trained eye for colour sets.


Once you have layers in place and dont forget to group all your layers. So if your working on a few people/figures group everything Person1 / Person 2 / Furniture / Background etc and add your individual layers into those groups. Manipulating each layer will then mean you can easily go back and change/modify set portions of the restore.


With high quality photos the colour process is far easier than old grainy/noise ladden photos, so the results are dramatic with colouring jobs based on the quality of photo.


I also agree your attempt at restore is great for first time, you should be proud - most old photos have a limitation so accept that you can only do so much with remove noise, blur etc once you have cleaned up as best as possible then you can spend hours and days even trying to retouch skins, textures etc.


One final piece of advice is when retouching skin and tones - you can use smudge but only on very low opacity other wise it will take out the texture of skin.materials etc. If you want to lighten an area use "dodge" and to darken "burn" again watch the opacity levels.


Another tip is in Photoshop at least you have a mixer tools, this is good for hairline and skin lines when you want to blend together the shades. On this tool remember to reset the swatch after each use as it can affect the colour your using to blend.


Most of all just try every tool in Elements or Photoshop whatever your using and accept that time and patience is needed. We all have different outcomes on every single picture, you will see on here from all restorers some do great on one and not so great on others...This is the time aspect.


Have fun learning and dont be scared to share and contribute on here - we are all still learning.


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Martyn
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Re: Can you colour a faded photo of the Thornton Family?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 16 March 16 11:47 GMT (UK) »
I dont know if this helps but here is a basic screenshot of working in Photoshop. Just showing very basic some of the tools you can use and practice with. and where to add groups using the button at bottom right of layers panel.


My screen is set up for essentials layout.


As i said before using a good quality image especially when practising colouring will help you more than using an old damaged photo - like the public domain image i coloured in the screenshot...


I started using images for practice from Wiki and also here http://digitalcollections.nypl.org/
You are free to use and share most public domain or Creative Commons images !!


Hope it helps.


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Re: Can you colour a faded photo of the Thornton Family?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 16 March 16 14:38 GMT (UK) »
Some great advice here.

Also - Don't forget EDIT - UNDO

If you make a mistake or if it dosn't look right to you - Use the UNDO button, as all is not lost.

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Re: Can you colour a faded photo of the Thornton Family?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 16 March 16 16:09 GMT (UK) »
Don't forget to flatten the layers on your final piece of work or the file will be huge.
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Re: Can you colour a faded photo of the Thornton Family?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 16 March 16 19:41 GMT (UK) »

  Just time for a roughie

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Re: Can you colour a faded photo of the Thornton Family?
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 16 March 16 19:48 GMT (UK) »
Very nice colouring there, Tomkin!   ;)  ;)
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Re: Can you colour a faded photo of the Thornton Family?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 16 March 16 20:01 GMT (UK) »
I see you had time for a colour as well Tomkin!!!
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Re: Can you colour a faded photo of the Thornton Family?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 16 March 16 21:36 GMT (UK) »

             "  Very nice colouring there, Tomkin!   ;)  ;) 2

            Very poor effort, buts it's been so long since I did any colouring that

           I couldn't remember what to do. ;D all my settings have gone :'(

           I was just about to complete Tomb Raider and had an hour to spare,

          so I thought I'd have a quick go.

         

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Re: Can you colour a faded photo of the Thornton Family?
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 17 March 16 00:00 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to you all for giving helpful info, I'm more sympathetic now I know how hard it is.

Thank you kmccormi, I really liked your curtains & background & face detail.Thank you Tomkin, I know how much effort even the roughest attempt takes.

Martyn, I compared your screenshot to mine and I don't have the pennib or group tab which may stymie things a bit. I think I need to see a pic from a photoshopper using the same prog as me to show what's possible.