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Re: Picturing our ancestors lives.
« Reply #54 on: Monday 04 April 16 12:39 BST (UK) »
I sometimes look at the Booths 1889 Poverty map of London. My great gran was born that year and the street she was born at was "Comfortable, good ordinary earnings". Her grandfather's tenement block was listed as "Lowest class, vicious, semi criminal". He was an ex soldier and over 10 years before had run a beer house but went bust and applied for poor relief. He must have fell on hard times and never recovered.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Picturing our ancestors lives.
« Reply #55 on: Monday 04 April 16 15:22 BST (UK) »
I sometimes look at the Booths 1889 Poverty map of London. My great gran was born that year and the street she was born at was "Comfortable, good ordinary earnings". Her grandfather's tenement block was listed as "Lowest class, vicious, semi criminal". He was an ex soldier and over 10 years before had run a beer house but went bust and applied for poor relief. He must have fell on hard times and never recovered.

That sounds like a brilliant resource, thanks for alerting me to it :)
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Re: Picturing our ancestors lives.
« Reply #56 on: Monday 04 April 16 18:32 BST (UK) »
I sometimes look at the Booths 1889 Poverty map of London. My great gran was born that year and the street she was born at was "Comfortable, good ordinary earnings". Her grandfather's tenement block was listed as "Lowest class, vicious, semi criminal". He was an ex soldier and over 10 years before had run a beer house but went bust and applied for poor relief. He must have fell on hard times and never recovered.

That sounds like a brilliant resource, thanks for alerting me to it :)

Here it is http://www.umich.edu/~risotto/imagemap.html

My great gran was born in south Islington, near the Clerkenwell border. Her fathers birthplace near Oxford Street was in the "Good ordinary earnings" category.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Picturing our ancestors lives.
« Reply #57 on: Tuesday 05 April 16 07:57 BST (UK) »
Here it is http://www.umich.edu/~risotto/imagemap.html

My great gran was born in south Islington, near the Clerkenwell border. Her fathers birthplace near Oxford Street was in the "Good ordinary earnings" category.

I've got a fair few relatives in the London area, this could keep me busy for a long, long time ;D
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Re: Picturing our ancestors lives.
« Reply #58 on: Tuesday 05 April 16 09:23 BST (UK) »
I have 3 generations of 1 family living in Lambeth on 1871 census, in Burnley Street which is now a listed building in the conservation Village of Stockwell. My great grandfather was listed as HOH, and his parents were also living there, as well as his wife and brother.

After that in Northumberland Ave. Paddington, (Balham), where my great grandparents lived after that but I can't find either of them on the little map.

Nothing in London for 1881, as the older generation had both died by then, and my great grand parents had emigrated to  Boston USA!

Although I have been and visited both, and have photo's of each of the buildings. Northumberland Ave seems to be now part of Notting hill.
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Re: Picturing our ancestors lives.
« Reply #59 on: Tuesday 05 April 16 10:05 BST (UK) »
Where does Balham fit in with respect to Paddington JB?

Much closer to Stockwell
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Re: Picturing our ancestors lives.
« Reply #60 on: Tuesday 05 April 16 11:17 BST (UK) »
Simple answer??  I don't know!  I think it was on an old certificate I have!  Somewhere!  I'll have to dig it out of my file.  Will check it out!
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Re: Picturing our ancestors lives.
« Reply #61 on: Tuesday 05 April 16 12:57 BST (UK) »
To Londoners, BalHAM (pronounced with a stagey emphasis on the last syllable), is most famous for

'BalHAM, Gateway to the South' said in a film announcer's voice, from Tony Hancock years ago.....

Definitely Sarf London, miles away from Paddington across The River.  But there will be an explanation somewhere, doubtless, in the certificates..... ;)
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Re: Picturing our ancestors lives.
« Reply #62 on: Tuesday 05 April 16 14:55 BST (UK) »
While not a Londoner by birth, my great, great gran was born in Sussex but her parents moved to London when she was a few months old in 1864. Her paternal grandparents came from Bermondsey anyway. They lived in Stoke Newington, then moved to Bow in 1865, then to Lambeth in 1876, then to Walworth in 1877 and then to Holborn in late 1878. All this is tracked from the 1871 census, siblings birth certs, school records and a poor relief application in December 1878. So that said gggran grew up in various parts of the capital. She lived in Bow from about mid 1865 to 1876. And I have been to all the locations where the streets were where she grew up.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain