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Offline Wiggy

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Re: Unknown Scottish soldier
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 10 March 16 22:34 GMT (UK) »
I wondered if the lack of any insignia  of any description, or medals would suggest studio dress-up?

Isn't that just a swagger stick Ruskie?  Not necessarily to do with horses?

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Re: Unknown Scottish soldier
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 10 March 16 22:38 GMT (UK) »
The  scan I was sent is not much bigger than this photo and doesn't blow up clearly.
My cousin in England has the original,so I will get him to scan at a higher resolution,but there may be a 13 hour delay.

Not much more than that, because he is checking emails from me while eating his cornflakes!
An enthusiastic new recruit ;D

I will also get him to double check the back of the photo for anything,but I doubt it.I have got him fairly well trained by now and if there is,he usually sends a scan of the back ;)
Both people worked at the same place,Bonchester Bridge,I think.

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Just seen your posts Ruskie and Wiggy,but have pretty much answered them already, thanks.Will bear that in mind.
One was a butler and the other a footman,so probably wouldn't have anything to do with horses?

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Re: Unknown Scottish soldier
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 10 March 16 22:40 GMT (UK) »
My dad was posted to Edinburgh in December 1939.
He was in RASC/EFI  but he went into a photographic studio and got photos of himself in the uniform of the Black Watch.

It did happen.
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Re: Unknown Scottish soldier
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 10 March 16 22:41 GMT (UK) »
I have trawlled pictures trying to match the tartan with cap badges, without success.

I get the feeling he is genuine, not in studio costume. I don't think dressing up they would have bothered with Puttees.

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CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
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Re: Unknown Scottish soldier
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 10 March 16 22:44 GMT (UK) »
Good evening,

Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders cap badge and tartan. They wear the Black Watch or government tartan.

Some of the scots regts did get issued with the normal jackets instead of the cut away jacket. Presumably during the war when supplies may have been short. 4th row down on the left is an almost identical picture. http://www.rootschat.com/links/01h8n/

There are a couple of other pictures on there as well showing the same jacket.

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Re: Unknown Scottish soldier
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 10 March 16 22:48 GMT (UK) »
Tartan has some similarities to Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders ...

Can you get a close up of the cap badge? I think this looks OK to fit with that theory.



That looks to be a good call.

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Re: Unknown Scottish soldier
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 10 March 16 22:52 GMT (UK) »
That image is a good fit John. I note that the cap does not have the band though. The soldier in your image also has a wound stripe so maybe that explains any slight differences in uniform.

I also believe that there are various combinations of dress (formal, battle etc) so that is why I think it can be sometimes be difficult to match up exactly Jebber.

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Re: Unknown Scottish soldier
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 10 March 16 22:58 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou again everyone

That is all very interesting.

I did have a similar thought as you Jebber regarding the puttees.
Many thanks John,I will check the link.
I will still get the close -ups of the badge and shoulder initials.

Barbara

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Re: Unknown Scottish soldier
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 10 March 16 23:37 GMT (UK) »
Good evening,

That image is a good fit John. I note that the cap does not have the band though. The soldier in your image also has a wound stripe so maybe that explains any slight differences in uniform.

I also believe that there are various combinations of dress (formal, battle etc) so that is why I think it can be sometimes be difficult to match up exactly Jebber.

I didn't actually look at the hat, I was just looking for that type of jacket on a Scottish soldier. The wound stripe wouldn't make any difference to what type of jacket.

On my link, I notice the pics are all changed around now, the same photo appears again further down but says he is 8th batt. Don't know if that makes any difference to the uniform and cap style.

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