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Anyone up for a challenge? A Date request for the Man in the Cart
« on: Wednesday 09 March 16 12:46 GMT (UK) »
I know you guys in here like a challenge ;D.  This is more like "Mission Impossible"  but lets give it a go.  I have been getting withdrawal symptoms after my last photo for identification - the one of mum on War Office roof.

I will be really impressed if anything comes of this one,  there is not much to go on just a view.  Although a date  from cart would be useful. It is another found in a batch of recent Cartes de Visites but unfortunately there is nothing on the back.

Good luck ;)

Jane

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Re: Anyone up for a challenge? A Date request for the Man in the Cart
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 March 16 14:02 GMT (UK) »
The black cardstock indicates 1890's.
Unfortunately carts didn't have number plates so no help there.
Is that a mill at the back ?
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Re: Anyone up for a challenge? A Date request for the Man in the Cart
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 March 16 14:57 GMT (UK) »
The black cardstock indicates 1890's.
Unfortunately carts didn't have number plates so no help there.
Is that a mill at the back ?

Thanks for reply.  Unfortunately the buildings are very faded,  also I cant get a good scan and enlarge enough  with getting pixelated.  With the aid of magnifying glass I can see on the white building in trees on left there is a back sign but cant make out the writing.  At first I thought the building to right of that  was a church but looks like an industrial chimney maybe.  The building to its right has the most unusual chimney which prompted me to google unusual  chimneys - no luck, its hard to describe but looks like a mini house with a gabled roof on the roof!  Then the  building behind the bridge has in front of it what I can only describe  as tower like  construction in front of it. 

I will try and see if I can improve on the scan.

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Re: Anyone up for a challenge? A Date request for the Man in the Cart
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 March 16 16:36 GMT (UK) »
I can't speak to the age of this photo but I was able to remove some of the scratches and also brightened it a bit.


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Re: Anyone up for a challenge? A Date request for the Man in the Cart
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 March 16 16:48 GMT (UK) »
I can't speak to the age of this photo but I was able to remove some of the scratches and also brightened it a bit.

Thanks that's very kind.  That's better :)

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Re: Anyone up for a challenge? A Date request for the Man in the Cart
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 March 16 18:34 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps the timbering of the two houses may offer clues.

Chimneys topped with a mini house are quite common in Normandy France. 
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Re: Anyone up for a challenge? A Date request for the Man in the Cart
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 March 16 18:52 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps the timbering of the two houses may offer clues.

Chimneys topped with a mini house are quite common in Normandy France. 

That's interesting.  I have been googling chimneys again but perhaps will try entering Normandy as well.  I tried to draw the chimney but it looked rubbish as was my description :o  the timbering could well be a clue, but there is a lot of it about!

To me it has a sort of Constable look about it. Would be nice in colour.  Shame I cant make out words on white house. 

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Re: Anyone up for a challenge? A Date request for the Man in the Cart
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 March 16 19:44 GMT (UK) »
I have just noticed my subject heading has been changed. This is a bit misleading. All I wanted was to find out the location of the photo.I shouldn't have mentioned dating cart so my fault. And I didnt mention asking for location I assumed wrongly that would be understood.

Sarah if you would change it to "a location request" I would be very grateful. I can't do it.

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Re: Anyone up for a challenge? A Date request for the Man in the Cart
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 09 March 16 20:14 GMT (UK) »
Lets break it down into some of the individual features.

Trees alongside the cart, what are they?

One tower/chimney,  could it be a bell tower on a church or town hall?

Looks like a well made bridge.

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