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Re: William Adams mystery marriage in india
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 10 March 16 08:24 GMT (UK) »
Linking to earlier thread on this family http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=712506

It is certainly possible that William and Agnes were not married.
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Re: William Adams mystery marriage in india
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 10 March 16 10:10 GMT (UK) »
A strong possibility for Agnes' birth https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPN3-YW5

Potentially at least two other daughters, Jane and Mary, to same couple.

Would need further checking, but certainly a James Adams married a Jane Magill in Castlereagh district, Belfast on 23/11/1863.
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Re: William Adams mystery marriage in india
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 10 March 16 11:00 GMT (UK) »
Have you ruled out the William Adams, bc1854, death in 1910, under 'Glasgow City', that is on scotlandspeople?
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Re: William Adams mystery marriage in india
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 10 March 16 11:26 GMT (UK) »
On checking the link to An...... I see that there was about a 20year age difference between William Herbert's parents.

If as asked previously, his father had been in the army/working in India then maybe there was a previous marriage in India and for some reason that has been recorded on his birth certificate.
Maybe they were trying to cover up the fact that they were not actually married by giving the date of his previous marriage or the way the registrar recorded the information he was being given???

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Re: William Adams mystery marriage in india
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 10 March 16 17:10 GMT (UK) »
RE: two marriages for William Adams , yes I think the explanation is that he was married in India to someone else but I can't find proof of that.  This sis the marriage recorded as India, even though Agnes is the mother.  Other children have the 1889 Belfast marriage.  So a cover up or a slip up not sure.

1910 death in Glasgow I have looked at, this William Adams was a coalminer and married to a different person.  Unless you have found a different death certificate to the one I found on Scotland people.

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Re: William Adams mystery marriage in india
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 10 March 16 17:14 GMT (UK) »
Re 1870 birth for Agnes, yes that is a string possibility I will investigate.  Other information I have would suggest that she was born a later but I know ages on other documents can be very misleading
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Re: William Adams mystery marriage in india
« Reply #15 on: Friday 11 March 16 11:03 GMT (UK) »
Looking through soldiers' records, there's a possible circumstantial fit with a William Adams, labourer, born Killead, Antrim circa 1854. he joined the army in 1876 in Belfast and was transferred to the Reserve in 1888. He was discharged in 1892.

Father Robert, mother Margaret.

Belfast addresses in the 1888-92 period were 17 Belmont Street and 13 Lagan Village.

He served In Lucknow in 1878 and 1879.

No mention of a marriage.
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Re: William Adams mystery marriage in india
« Reply #16 on: Friday 11 March 16 17:37 GMT (UK) »
That's really interesting about army and parents thank you.  I know first names can run in families and his first daughter was called Margaret, my great aunt, who I have many fond memories of - she was a spinster, bit eccentric and really tiny!