John Cade birth b 1766?, d 1799/1800?

[Stormybay]

Hi
I need help with John Cade.  My guess is he was born of Luke Cade and Elizabeth of Old Street about 1766, but fear that record showed a death in infancy.  I can find no other birth of John Cade.
He was married to Elizabeth Archer in 1788 at St Michael Bassishaw, but died 1799/1800 as Elizabeth Cade then married George Cowley at the same church.  She had other children but her son, whom she named George, was baptized two years after his father's death in 1802. 
I just need to confirm when John's life started and when it ended, if anyone can help, please. 

[hanes teulu]

FindMyPast has a baptismal record (image) for -
John Cade, born 25 Aug 1766, bap. 23 Sep 1766 at St. Martin in the Fields, son of James And Eleanor.

[Stormybay]

Thank you for checking on this.  I did find this one, but I believe I have followed up with his children and he has a different family.  I will trace it through again, but I am pretty sure this is the wrong man.
Stormy

[hanes teulu]

Have you had sight of the original parish entry for the 1788 marriage? Who were the witnesses? These can sometimes provide a link. John (son of Luke/Elizabeth) had 2 older sisters and 1 older brother (out of at least 7 siblings).

Re the marriage - I can see a transcribed marriage record on FindMyPast for a John Cade and Elizabeth Hatcher, 28 Jan 1788, London.

(Checking this out led me to the death of a Luke Cade, age 74, Paradise Row, Chelsea who died 1811 by falling into a wine cooler full of hot wine)

[Stormybay]

Hello again
Great idea about the witnesses, but they were John Cooke (who also witnessed Elizabeth's marriage to George Colley after John Cade's death) and Mary Atkins.  These two people witnessed several marriages and so must have had some role in the church.  From what I can see the three siblings - if Luke Cade was my John's father - were dead before 1788 and were buried at St Luke's Old Street.  The story about falling into the boiling vat of fat was amazing and was written up in the Morning Post newspaper as one of a series of tragedies that struck this family in an 1821obituary for a son named Luke who died a few years later.  That story made an allusion to a tragic death (at sea?) by an older brother, who could have been my John Cade..."a Captain in the trade with Russia, pined away in the prime of his life and died quite disheartened, after many crosses". 
Thus, I have a lot of information but cannot make a tight case for this man being the son of Luke Cade. 

Once again, thank you so much for your work on this.   

[hanes teulu]

"John Cade, a captain in the trade with Russia..."

Caledonian Mercury, 7 Dec 1801
The Ex, Cade, from Petersburgh to Gothenburg, is put into Rogerswick, after throwing part of the cargo overboard

Bell's Weekly Messenger, 17 Oct 1802
The Ex, Cade, was lost on the 21st of August, near Petersburgh - Crew, and part of the materials, saved.

If Cade of the Ex is Luke Cade's son and Luke Charles Cade's brother, it would appear to rule him out as the John Cade who married Elizabeth in 1788. She remarried 17 Jan 1802 before the loss of the Ex in Oct 1802? 

[hanes teulu]

The Hull Packet, 29 Dec 1801, in describing the incident of the Ex putting into Rogerswick (Roggerswigg in the Hull report) refers to "The Ex, Cade, of London .....".

Yet to spot a reference to "Ex, Cade..." after this date.

[seaweed]

 The Oct/12/1802 issue of Lloyd's List (from which the newspaper articles were probably gleaned) says
The Ex, Cade, was lost on the 21st of August, near Petersburgh - Crew, and part of the materials, saved.

Lloyd's Register only lists EX in two yearly editions 1801 and 1802.
A  Brig of 162 tons built in 1798? owned by W Sutton and Registered in Bridgewater.

Master R Cade

It could be that Lloyd's Reg has the initial wrong. A check of Bridgewater crew agreements  comes up with nothing but I don't know how far their database extends.
http://www1.somerset.gov.uk/archives/database/crewlist.htm

Direct contact with Somerset Record office may give you an answer.

[hanes teulu]

Seaweed has identified R. Cade from Lloyds Registers. I think the initial is correct. I can find other references to an R. Cade (one looks like "B") in the Registers
http://www.lrfoundation.org.uk/public_education/reference-library/register-of-ships-online

Also, the Lancaster Gazette, 21 Jan 1804, has a shipping report -
"ARRIVED AT LIVERPOOL
Russia
Susannah, R. Cade from Narva with 6565 deals ....".

So, looks quite possible there were two Cades involved in the Russia Trade around the same period - the John Cade referred to in the newspaper article and the R. Cade of the Ex, Susannah (and later Crow Isle?).