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Offline Isabel H

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Do these letters on a sampler mean anything?
« on: Sunday 06 March 16 10:06 GMT (UK) »
This is part of a sampler stitched by my gg grandmother, Elizabeth Coxon, b.1830, dau. of William Coxon and Ann Gray of Thrum Mill, Rothbury.

The letters after the date, TSI(J?)SMS-SB look as though they have some meaning, but what might it be? 
GRAY - Inveresk; Lanarkshire
LINDSAY - Lanarkshire
PURDIE - Lanarkshire; W. Lothian
POZZI - Elgin; Lancashire
MACKENZIE, MORISON - Stornoway
ARCHIBALD, HAY, HUNTER, SNADDON - Clackmannanshire
COXON, HALL, JACKSON, SHOTTON - Northumberland

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Re: Do these letters on a sampler mean anything?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 06 March 16 10:35 GMT (UK) »
This is part of a sampler stitched by my gg grandmother, Elizabeth Coxon, b.1830, dau. of William Coxon and Ann Gray of Thrum Mill, Rothbury.

The letters after the date, TSI(J?)SMS-SB look as though they have some meaning, but what might it be?
I would presume they are a religious acronym, in the manner of INRI (JNRJ if you prefer), possibly added when the job was complete, in the manner of Haydn writing Laus Deo at the end of a symphony?

Wasn't Thrum Mill the subject of a TV restoration programme a couple of years ago?
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Re: Do these letters on a sampler mean anything?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 06 March 16 11:10 GMT (UK) »
I think it reads : TSJSMS - SR. I agree it's proably a religious acronym. Any idea which denomination the family belonged to?

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Re: Do these letters on a sampler mean anything?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 March 16 11:34 GMT (UK) »
I researched one of these some time ago with a series of letters & found them to be the initials of the rest of the family. Not the case here as you know who she is but may be something similar.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
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Re: Do these letters on a sampler mean anything?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 06 March 16 11:41 GMT (UK) »
Andrew, I did wonder if it was an acronym, but can't work it out.  And yes, the restoration of Thrum Mill did feature in a TV programme.

Steve, Thanks, I see now that the last letter is an R, not a B.  No I'm afraid I don't know what denomination they were.

Jim, That doesn't seem to apply here, as her siblings were William, John, George and Robert.

GRAY - Inveresk; Lanarkshire
LINDSAY - Lanarkshire
PURDIE - Lanarkshire; W. Lothian
POZZI - Elgin; Lancashire
MACKENZIE, MORISON - Stornoway
ARCHIBALD, HAY, HUNTER, SNADDON - Clackmannanshire
COXON, HALL, JACKSON, SHOTTON - Northumberland

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Re: Do these letters on a sampler mean anything?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 March 16 13:56 GMT (UK) »
11 years old would be an indication that it is something a child would recall

I also thought of a hymn or a scripture saying ie  (they) Say Jesus Saves Many/My Soul/s


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Re: Do these letters on a sampler mean anything?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 10 March 16 17:44 GMT (UK) »
I would also guess it's initials  - of either members of her family, except presumably their initials ended with C, or the others in her class. Perhaps the SR at the end is the teacher. Can you research other contemporary Rothbury residents? Or the name of the teacher (which might be found in a directory of the period)?
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Re: Do these letters on a sampler mean anything?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 10 March 16 18:15 GMT (UK) »
I see:
TS JS MS SR

Going off at a tangent, it could even be the initials of a kindly neighbour/family, perhaps even the ones who looked after her while parents were working, or who taught her how to do samplers and gave her the materials.  And the SR ... could be their dog :)

While sensible answers are King, it's sometimes good to think outside of the box in case that leads you to an unexpected answer that just lands in your lap.

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Re: Do these letters on a sampler mean anything?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 10 March 16 18:27 GMT (UK) »
It's definitely SR.
BATE, Lancashire
CASE, Lancashire
CHILWELL, Warwickshire
DRURY, Prees, Salop
McCOLL, Greenock and Appin
SMEDLEY, Nottingham
ASHWORTH, Buxton