dating of photograph of Emily possibly my Great Grandmother

[JanStef]

Hi
Just so everyone can see one of the photos to which I'm comparing the undated one.

I've attached the photo of my grandmother Elsie Bottom King. Mum is the shorter of the two girls. She is about 12 in the photo. That dates this photo at 1928.
This photo would have been taken in Elsmore which is near Inverell NSW
regards
Jan

[Wiggy]

Now that one I will believe could be late 1920s.

But

I'm more than willing to hear varying opinions. There is always the possibility I have made an error in judgement.

I just don't believe the other is 1900s - the footwear on the young girl is all wrong as are the clothes.  The huge bow was IN  way back then but it was IN again later too.

Here are a couple of samples of children's clothing in Australia in and about 1900  -  taken from the internet.  My grandmother was about the same age as yours so I am also judging by photos I've seen of her.

It has nothing to do with the size of the photo . . .  it has to do with the look of the photo and of the clothes being worn.   


Just my opinion - but backed up by others with far more experience on this board than I have.

Think you may have the wrong generation.  I couldn't say positively that they are the same people in the second photo you've posted.  In fact I'd say they are different - related maybe but different people.

Cheers,  Wiggy

[chinakay]

I afraid I'll have to respectfully disagree with both of you.

Why did you ask, then?

This is neither a 1900s nor a 1920s photo. The clothing styles are completely wrong for either period and so is the photo printing out paper.

The styles are fairly ambiguous as is the photo size, but what comes to mind is 1970s. Maxi dress with a zipper closure, granny glasses, braids, very short hemline and white gym shoes on the girl. Short sleeves on both and what looks like a t-shirt under that dirndl skirt.

Bottom line is that this is a modern photo. And there is NO WAY this is from 1896.

[Wiggy]

Glad you said that China 'cos I was having trouble even making it fit with 1940s.  It just looks far too modern. 

[JanStef]

Hi again
The photo was part of my grandmother's collection. She died in 1966, so the 70's are out. I didn't know that why I asked about the size of the photo. I got the facial recognition software yesterday. I thank you for all the time and effect you put in but I don't agree with you. I'm closing the topic, when I can find the button.
regards
Jan

[Wiggy]

First zippers used in clothing after about 1937.  Just been looking them up!

[JanStef]

Hi Wiggy
I have blown this photo up many times. There are no zippers used in the making of this dress. It's probably hand made. The front may look like it has a zipper but it isn't.

If the little girl was in her Sunday best then we would be able to  make a better comparison to the photos you added, but she's not. The only thing I can say accurately is the clothes by children whose families may be well off are very different to the clothes worn by children who lived in the poverty of country NSW.  My family lived in country NSW. 

I was 13 in 1971 and we wouldn't be caught dead in those clothes.They are nothing like what we wore in the 70's; not to mention we would recognize the people; plus it would be in colour.

I know you are trying to help but I closed the topic for a reason (or at least I thought I did) and that reason was 'no one was listening'. I have a lot of photographic evidence that dates the clothes prior 1930. The only dress I can find in my photos that belonged to Mum's side of the family, that is floor length, is the one of Elsie which you kindly restored. Elsie was born in 1880. She's probably aged around 20.

When people started commenting on the clothes I decided to go through the hundreds of photos I inherited because what they were saying didn't gel with my knowledge and recollections.

Then there is another photo I posted to be restored of the Jeffrey/Stephenson family. I posted it to  before I got the DPI correct. I can date that to 1901 or before. My great grandmother, in the pale dress, died in 1901 and judging by the age of her baby the date would be 1898.

I can't work out what the fence is made of in the photo we are discussing. It looks like iron. If the photo was dated in the 1940's I would have expected barbed wire, wood or corrugated iron.

We're going to Inverell over Easter to visit a cousin. I'll ask if he can remember any fences similar to the one in the photo.

If I'm wrong I'm not hurting anyone. You may be correct 99% of the time but I don't believe you are this time so please leave me in my delusion. 
 
I appreciate your time, effort and concern but I don't care to enter into any discussion on this topic again.

regards
Jan

[Wiggy]

Go to the bottom left hand side of the topic and find the lock button under your last post- click on it and that will lock it.

[chinakay]

I don't care to enter into any discussion on this topic again.

Don't ask, then.