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Thomas Rae born 18 Nov 1898 in Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
« on: Wednesday 02 March 16 16:37 GMT (UK) »
Did Thomas Rae emigrate to the USA?

His parents were Peter McGowan Rae & Margaret McDonald.
He had one brother, John born in 1894, who died in 1915 & 2 sisters: Margaret born in 1901 & Jessie born in 1905.
SCOTLAND:
Lanarkshire: Frame, Rae, Andrews & McDonald

IRELAND:
Carndonagh: Doherty, Quigley, Sweeney & McGonagle

ENGLAND:
Kent: Wells
London: Stringer
Warwickshire, Coventry: Hewlett
Oxfordshire, Banbury: Moseley

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Re: Thomas Rae born 18 Nov 1898 in Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 02 March 16 16:51 GMT (UK) »
HI,

Thomas Rae with that birth date (18 November 1898) does not show on the SSDI (social security death index) which was up and running by 1962 ish.  If he pased away before that date then he wouldn't show - so that search is not conclusive.

Any idea when he disappears from Scottish records ?   Are there any military records for him ?

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Re: Thomas Rae born 18 Nov 1898 in Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 02 March 16 17:37 GMT (UK) »
Any info ref Passenger Lists?

The last place his name is documented is in the 1911 Census (Cambusnethan, Wishaw, Lanarkshire, Scotland).
SCOTLAND:
Lanarkshire: Frame, Rae, Andrews & McDonald

IRELAND:
Carndonagh: Doherty, Quigley, Sweeney & McGonagle

ENGLAND:
Kent: Wells
London: Stringer
Warwickshire, Coventry: Hewlett
Oxfordshire, Banbury: Moseley

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Re: Thomas Rae born 18 Nov 1898 in Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 02 March 16 17:56 GMT (UK) »
There is a Thomas Rae born 1898 who appears on a multitude of New York Passenger and Crew Lists but it gives no further details of him.  https://familysearch.org/ have some passenger lists for New York, Philadelphia etc.,

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Re: Thomas Rae born 18 Nov 1898 in Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 March 16 08:12 GMT (UK) »
The U.S. Naturalization Records Indexes has a record of a Thomas Rae born 18 Nov 1898 applying for citizenship in Detroit, Michigan on 23 Apr 1929. It's just an index card so there are no other details.

The 1930 US census has a Thomas Rae and a Jessie Rae listed as boarders in Detroit. Both are listed as single and born in Scotland. Their ages match up with Thomas and his sister, Jessie. Here's a link:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRHN-QPL

There is a passenger list entry for a Jessie Rae who was on the Caledonia which departed from Glasgow and arrived in New York on 10 Dec 1929. Jessie was a dressmaker. She gives her last permanent residence as Airdrie, Scotland and gave her nearest relative in Scotland as Mrs. Maggie Rae, 130 Clark Street, Airdrie. She was going to her brother, Thomas Rae, 6119 Lakeview Avenue, Detroit. This information matches up with the 1930 census entry.

Jessie didn't stay in the US very long. There is an incoming UK passenger list for the California which departed from New York and arrived in Glasgow on 25 Jan 1931 that has Jessie listed. She indicates Scotland was her intended permanent residence with 130 Clark Street, Airdrie listed as her UK address.

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz

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Re: Thomas Rae born 18 Nov 1898 in Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 March 16 08:32 GMT (UK) »
There is a passenger list for the Franconia which departed from Liverpool and arrived in New York on 1 Aug 1923 with a Thomas Rae. He was 24, a steel dresser and was destined to Detroit. His closest relative in Scotland was his mother, Mrs. Margaret Smith, 130 Clark Street, Airdrie.

Thomas returned to Scotland on the California which departed from New York and arrived in Glasgow on 4 Aug 1935. He gave 130 Clark Street, Airdrie as his UK address. He also indicated his intended permanent residence was a "foreign country" (that's the column head).

He returned to the US on the Transylvania which departed from Glasgow and arrived in New York on 3 Feb 1936. His listed address is the same as was listed on Jessie's passenger list and the 1930 census. The passenger list also indicates he became a naturalized citizen of the US on 29 Jul 1929.

There is also a passenger list for the Cameronia which departed from Glasgow and arrived in New York on 17 Aug 1936 that lists a Catherine Bell Rae. She was going to join her husband Thomas Rae, 6119 Lakeview Avenue, Detroit. The Lakeview address is crossed out and was replaced with 4515 Crane Avenue. Catherine lists her mother, Mrs. John Rankine as her nearest relative in Scotland.

This information matches a 1940 US census entry for Thomas and Katherine Rae in St. Clair Shores (a suburb of Detroit), Michigan:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01h6m/

ScotlandsPeople has a 1935 marriage in Glasgow for Thomas Rae and Catherine B. Rankine.

Catherine is buried at Forest Lawn Cemetery in Detroit. Here is a picture of her grave marker:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=130853037&PIpi=102856607

There wasn't an entry for Thomas and I can't find a death for him.

Jacquie
Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz

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Re: Thomas Rae born 18 Nov 1898 in Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 March 16 10:36 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much to 'Sandra' & 'Jacqui in Canada'.

Will check all this out.......but the info looking good!! 😃😃😃
SCOTLAND:
Lanarkshire: Frame, Rae, Andrews & McDonald

IRELAND:
Carndonagh: Doherty, Quigley, Sweeney & McGonagle

ENGLAND:
Kent: Wells
London: Stringer
Warwickshire, Coventry: Hewlett
Oxfordshire, Banbury: Moseley

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Re: Thomas Rae born 18 Nov 1898 in Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 March 16 10:55 GMT (UK) »
Great stuff Jackie -  ;)

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Re: Thomas Rae born 18 Nov 1898 in Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
« Reply #8 on: Friday 04 March 16 19:03 GMT (UK) »
If you don't have it, SP has a marriage registration for James Smith and Margaret McDonald or Rae by Sheriff Substitute dated 1922. James' address is listed as 130 Clark Street, Airdrie.

If you would like a copy of this and/or Margaret's death registration then please PM me your email address and I will send them to you.

Jacquie
Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz