George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3

[BushInn1746]

I am very pleased to make the Burial announcement I made earlier!!

I could give you a long story which began a year ago and I gave up, to concentrate on the birth, possible sideways relations instead.

But going away doing more research (building a profile of the people who George was knocking about with, his Business contacts and Tenants religious backgrounds where they were marrying, comments received on Rootschat etc.), seeking secondary advice from Quaker Library HQ, more persistence, another polite email last X-mas - could they check again please if George was buried by the Quakers, then telephoning recently and getting a most helpful Archive Officer on the right day, explaining to her the research done and that Quakers seem a viable and only option left for burial, really does sometimes pay off!

My feeling is that email has burdened down institutions and public authorities (getting 10s of 1000s a month) and it was much better when you wrote a letter with an SAE (not so many people bothered back then), walked to the postbox and snail mailed it and got the reply like I got today.

Thank you very much to all.

Mark

PS, it is wonderful when your record is searchable on a PC though, but this has some way to go yet!

[dobfarm]

The ending solved.

Great find Mark and fits Sarah's death place house number in Gowthorpe at or near Quaker burial ground - so no doubt she'll be buried with George and explains why there was no mention of Sarah's burial place in the Selby newspaper (as not stating Sarah was buried outside Selby town, as it did with other burials stating place of out of town burials)

Quakers seem to come into George and Sarah Hood's (Russel) family picture in mid to late life with daughter in laws beliefs.


The beginning. ? Hood mariners ? That route has been well researched


near hard facts

Brewery and cooper trade as one Wren lane- ( Could link to Hood landlord/publican/innkeeper/brewer)  and a George Hood baptism 1786 dad John Hood . (an near exact year to fit known info on George) with no after life or burial infant or adult or marriage for this George bapt 1786.

Was George brought up in brewing or selling booze environment.


Need to do some deeper research on John Hood the innkeeper Gatehead or innkeeper come mariner/boatman/pack boat waterman (Innkeepers who do move around the country) AH Well ! 

[dobfarm]

I am very pleased to make the Burial announcement I made earlier!!

I could give you a long story which began a year ago and I gave up, to concentrate on the birth, possible sideways relations instead.

But going away doing more research (building a profile of the people who George was knocking about with, his Business contacts and Tenants religious backgrounds where they were marrying, comments received on Rootschat etc.), seeking secondary advice from Quaker Library HQ, more persistence, another polite email last X-mas - could they check again please if George was buried by the Quakers, then telephoning recently and getting a most helpful Archive Officer on the right day, explaining to her the research done and that Quakers seem a viable and only option left for burial, really does sometimes pay off!

My feeling is that email has burdened down institutions and public authorities (getting 10s of 1000s a month) and it was much better when you wrote a letter with an SAE (not so many people bothered back then), walked to the postbox and snail mailed it and got the reply like I got today.

Thank you very much to all.

Mark

PS, it is wonderful when your record is searchable on a PC though, but this has some way to go yet!

Its possible George Hood parents were Quakers, George brought up Quaker but followed the Anglican religion belief in adulthood himself or change to follow Sarah Russel's faith C o E at and after marriage.

A more persistent relook at Quaker births 1784- 1788

Early Quaker births were not always recorded in a special ledger book of births but more a less notes of an event of the birth in notes of friends meeting occasions at the meeting house.

Its also possible only one of George's parents was a Quaker, most likely the mother a Quaker and George record birth in Quaker notes but later followed the fathers religion being Anglican but was not baptised as mothers wishes or her beliefs.

If which would seem most likely the other missing burials of George's children and Sarah his wife  are buried in Selby burial ground there could be more detailed notes of any connections to George's Quaker parents - if any. ie;- example -  (George's mother) Mrs Hood of Scarborough friends meeting house. (George's dad of Anglican belief) (or visa versa)

[BushInn1746]

A more persistent relook at Quaker births 1784- 1788

Early Quaker births were not always recorded in a special ledger book of births but more a less notes of an event of the birth in notes of friends meeting occasions at the meeting house.

Precisely.

The online records of Quakers (mainly RG 6 Series TNA, Kew), seem to be mainly Registers.

Apparently, the Quakers seemed to have some delay in handing them over I have discovered, when they were requested by the Registrar General in the 1830s.

It does seem that some Birth, Marriage and Burial events are recorded as "Notes" amongst the Monthly, Quarterly or Yearly Quaker Meetings and Meeting Minutes.

The University holding the records in respect of William Hood of Selby who was the Firstborn Son of George Hood have already read over the telephone details of his Quaker burial and that there was nothing that could assist with tracing my family lineage.

I actually thought the Quakers were very thorough in their records, but in the case of the Hoods of Selby so far, for some odd reason the Quakers were not.

I've had a gut feeling for some months, that George Hood was trying to hide a past (perhaps even one of privilege and/or illegitimacy) and consider the poor (being Elected Overseer of the Poor in 1838), as well as local business people.

Regards Mark

[..claire..]

Some of the Wills that I have read people often left bequests to "the poor of the parish" - if this was something close to GH's personal life he may have possibly done this. I am inclined to think there was something he had to hide in his past - possibly illegitimacy. Just not sure

PS: In regards to the first sentence - not saying your ancestors were misers or anything 

[BushInn1746]

No Charity mentioned.

Regards Mark

[BushInn1746]

When I visited Texas in '98' the Hood descendants there had no idea that the Hood family was so big as George Arundel Hood who emigrated had changed his name to George Arrington Hood - reason unknown.

It was said that the James Hood's female children lived with one of the grandparents whilst the males lived with the other and my grandad said they had a 'roving commission' - tinkers, my mum says' which is why they travelled so much.

The Arundels a couple of generations further back seemed to be spelt Arundale, which may throw out the 'illegitimate theory', although a lot of the time in the c16/c17 the surname seems to have been determined by the vicar at baptism and how he spelt it.

Hello Richard

It was always my understanding that George Arundel Hood born Selby in the County of York, England, Great Britain, was buried as George Arundel Hood? No knowledge of Arrington.

If the Arringtons are linking to the wrong family in their tree? Then the Arringtons wouldn't know how big the Hood of Selby, Yorkshire, Great Britain, family had become.

Regards Mark

[dobfarm]

Now Mark you have found and know where George Hood was buried  21 Sept 1845 in the old Quaker burial ground Selby. I think to it would be appropriate to stick to Rootchats quid lines now your original request has been found to make this thread COMPLETED or close it owing to its length.

[BushInn1746]

This is very much one of those 'breaking news stories' ...


Firstly I would like to say a big Thank You to Oliver for searching the records, Helen of Leeds University Special Collections and all who contributed on this thread.

George Hood Burial Notes Found

"The Quaker Custodian ... has managed to identify an entry in the Selby Burial Notes for George Hood which indicates that he was 'not in membership' (i.e. not a Quaker himself) but was buried in the Friends' Burial Ground at Selby as requested."

"The burial note does not contain a lot of detail apart from the date of death (18/09/1845), date of death registered (19/09/1845) name of grave maker (Andrew Turton), date of burial (21/09/1845)."

This is all I have at present and will apply for the Burial Notes.

Thank You All

Kind regards Mark