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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #279 on: Tuesday 16 August 16 15:55 BST (UK) »
I went to St Mary's RC Church today to look at the grave Dobfarm spotted from the bus.  It is Canon Best's grave and he was re-buried in 1913 having been in Selby Abbey. He is the only one buried in the grounds.   The Housekeeper at the Presbytery was in the garden.  She invited me in to look at the Registers for St Mary's and Carlton (in exchange for the name and telephone number of my hairdresser!). 

There is no George Hood burial entered  in 1845  in the Selby or Carlton Register.  I also had a look at baptisms back to  1780 and could not see an entry for "our George".

Its was always a long shot that - but Good elimination work Goughy ;)

 ;D ;D ;D that's a first  and a good swop! - definitely a Women thingy what ever.  ???
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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #280 on: Tuesday 16 August 16 16:49 BST (UK) »
Hello Goughy, dobfarm, bumblebee and All

Thank you, that is most interesting! We can rule out Catholics of both Carlton and Selby, for both George's baptism and burial.

Good job you found them, as neither the Church at Selby, nor the R.C., Diocese have replied yet.

Selby Abbey, apparently had Leases at Cliffe, Barlby, Riccall, Osgodby, South Duffield, Hemingbrough and Fulford in the East Riding and Neway in West Riding 1862. I wondered, if perhaps an overflow cemetery somewhere?
["Neway" or is it Newhay. Fulford was near City of York, adjacent Heslington]

Hull Packet 1847  October 5, ... Edwin Paxton Hood [originally born London] Author and Temperance advocate married Jane Wagstaff (dau of Wm Wagstaff of Heslington) at Salem Chapel, York and they lived at Fulford.

I have enquired about the Selby Sexton book with WYAS Leeds, but is Leeds City Archives the same, or is it attached to the Central Library please?

I'm also enquiring if there is an Act Book or Bishop's Register, which might mention the 1815 Bond or Marriage.

Regards Mark

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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #281 on: Tuesday 16 August 16 16:58 BST (UK) »
Link to Leeds City Archives  http://www.leeds.gov.uk/leisure/Pages/Local-and-family-history-service.aspx

Verger at Abbey said "Leeds City Archives" but could be WYAS Archives. (I personally didn't speak to the Verger, it was a friend of mine)
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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #282 on: Tuesday 16 August 16 19:26 BST (UK) »
Farnley Hall is the Leeds city metro council archives also YAHS (YAS)  Leeds Brotherton Library & Claremont House with Leeds Uni

http://www.yorkshireroots.org.uk/
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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #283 on: Wednesday 17 August 16 08:35 BST (UK) »
Hello Goughy, dobfarm, bumblebee and All

Thank you, that is most interesting! We can rule out Catholics of both Carlton and Selby, for both George's baptism and burial.

Good job you found them, as neither the Church at Selby, nor the R.C., Diocese have replied yet.

Selby Abbey, apparently had Leases at Cliffe, Barlby, Riccall, Osgodby, South Duffield, Hemingbrough and Fulford in the East Riding and Neway in West Riding 1862. I wondered, if perhaps an overflow cemetery somewhere?
["Neway" or is it Newhay. Fulford was near City of York, adjacent Heslington]

Hull Packet 1847  October 5, ... Edwin Paxton Hood [originally born London] Author and Temperance advocate married Jane Wagstaff (dau of Wm Wagstaff of Heslington) at Salem Chapel, York and they lived at Fulford.

I have enquired about the Selby Sexton book with WYAS Leeds, but is Leeds City Archives the same, or is it attached to the Central Library please?

I'm also enquiring if there is an Act Book or Bishop's Register, which might mention the 1815 Bond or Marriage.

Regards Mark


Its kept running through my mind that the Selby cemetery started its life as an extension burial ground field church cemetery ( not a municipal at first till 1858) to the Abbey graveyard and George Hood somehow got forgotten off the parish burial register in the confusion of burial grounds and plausible ! till one thinks about that real mystery that pops up - Burial of Sarah Hood near 34 years later. The Selby cemetery was well open by 1879 decade years later and Sarah along with the other sibling burials missing in the between years should have been recorded in the parish register or municipal cemetery burial book.
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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #284 on: Wednesday 17 August 16 10:11 BST (UK) »
All a Big Mystery

George Hood died "at Selby" 18 September 1845 aged 60 yrs, Tanner & Brewer. Three newspapers Yorkshire Gazette; York Herald and The Leeds Intelligencer (say 63 yrs).
However 28 years old in 1815 (Marriage), so likely 58 to 59 years (in his 60th year).

Sarah Hood "Widow of George HOOD Tanner", died 11 Gowthorpe, Selby 28 November 1879, aged 86 yrs, baptised at Selby.

Their adult children:-
Richard Hood Grocer, died Market Place, Selby 2 May 1850, aged 23 yrs (Sheffield and Rotherham Independent; York Herald; Hull Advertiser; Hull Packet; Leeds Mercury and Leeds Intelligencer - newspapers 23/ 24 yrs)
Sarah Hood died Selby 22 September 1853, aged 18 years;
Mary Hood died Selby 24 November 1854, aged 34 years;
Ellen Hood died Selby 27 July 1855, aged 23 years.

Regarding Parish Churchyards, it would seem even when closed, if one parent was buried in the churchyard, the spouse and unmarried adult children could be buried there too.

List of places checked for GEORGE HOOD (I'll add a list of the private General Cemetery Companies checked in Yorkshire when I receive an outstanding reply).

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=742806.234

Thank you, Mark

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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #285 on: Thursday 18 August 16 11:09 BST (UK) »
Hello All

Of possible interest to family history researchers from TNA, Kew £0.00 (free) to download (takes about half an hour and 405Mb Pdf ), if the father might be in the Navy?

Some quick scribble notes of HOODS extracted from ADM 142/6 REGISTERS OF WILLS, surname H (see images, as some contain more information, than my notes below).

"No." given is the number in Ledger on that Pdf page number, (separate column for any Ship Number)

Pdf p.7
No. 58 Alex’r Hood, Ship last from "Culloden", 17 October 1787, in favour of Ann Hood, Plym Dock, Wife

Pdf p.9
No. 89 John Hood, Ship last from "Inspector", 13 August 1785, London, in favour of John Hood, Father, Witnessed by Wm Blair Weacock [or possibly Wedcock?]

To Pdf p.55 (No. 600) but seem to begin Surname “Ha”.

So fast search to Surnames beginning “Ho” again, but found on …

Pdf p.74
No. 885 Sam’l Hood entered by mistake, Thos Baker 3 Oct 1818, in favour of Wm Baker 17 Napan St, Midd’ex Hospl, Brother

“Ho” from Pdf page 127

Pdf p.131
No. 73 Hugh Hood, Ship last from "Fox", 24 April 1794, Jane Hood, Carrickfergus, Wife

Pdf p.136
No. 163 George Hood, ship last from “Union” present residence Sick Quarters Sheerness 16 September 1795, in whose favour Peter Parker [or Barker? or Birker?] of the Union, Executor “friend” Surgeon and Agent. [Will] Sent to Doctors Commons 24 March 1797 Cresswell.  Returned 24 April 1797. “Check issued” 19 May 1797. To “Cashier”

[Note: when this George Hood died, might possibly buried in the Sheerness area?]

No. 165 Jno Hood, ship last from “Apollo” on board, 9 August 1795, Mary Hood, Southwark, Wife, the Captain and Clerk witnessed the Will.

Pdf p.137
No. 177 John Hood, Ship last from Bellerophon, 7th Oct 1796, Jane Hood, Derby, Wife.

No. 179 Joshua Hood, Ship’s Name “Commerce & Marseills” 9 November 1795 John Hood, Moshields, Brother [actually looks like Moshields, (perhaps meant NoShields abb’n., for North Shields?)]

Pdf p.140
No. 223 Richard Hood alias Richard Griffiths, ship last from Hannibal, on board, 28 April 1781, in favour of Sam’l Hood of Portsm’ and Harriott Griffiths of London, Grandfather and Sister

Pdf p.143
No. 287 David Hood, Ship last from “Captain” 26 May 1805, Eliz’th Hood, Cornwall, Wife

Pdf p.144
No. 301 John Hood, Ship last from “Renown” 20 Nov 1800, in favour of Jane Hill, Plymouth, Sister

Pdf p.145
No. 314 Hen’y Henry Hood, Ship last from “Bellona”, Haslar Hos: 23 April 1801, In whose favour Eliz Sergeant, Cha’s Fowler Ex’r, London, Witnessed by Gov: & Agent 23 Dec, Check Issued 1 Jan’y 1803, Ex’r duplicate 4197 by order of A.I. [or A.J.] 3 March 15

[Seems to have reference to an Order referring to a duplicate 4197 of 3 March 1815. This was the year my George Hood of Selby got married?]

Pdf p.147
No. 387 Thos Hood, Ship “Medusa” 12 April 1805, In favour of Eliz Watson of Glassell Kermorr, Mother

[typing ‘Glassell Kermoor’ into a search engine, gives Glassel Post Office, Glassel (AB31), Glassel Aberdeenshire and Glassel Banchory. Also words appear amongst addresses including road names in Lancashire and Chorley, Lancs]

No. 393 Jno Holland, “Agam”[?] 2 October 1805, in favour of Jas HOOD, Portsea, Sister

Pdf p.149
No. 325 John Hood “Defiance”, 12 May 1801, in favour of Fra’s Myers, Residence Defence, Friend, Check issued 11 November 1801 Ex’r
 
No. 328 John Hood, Ship last from “Defiance” on board, 12 May 1801, Francis Myers on board the Defiance, Seaman, Witnessed by Captain and Master See (325)

Pdf p.156
No. 504
Sam’l Hood
Tho’s Baker “Minden & Griffon” – vid Ba 863 Will in Case H/5126  24 November 1811

[any reference to Case (later in 1940) was usually a reference to an Admiralty Volume number]

Pdf p.159
No. 545 Thomas Hood, “Intrepid”, on board, 23 December 1853 [reference to £5 and several names, some on board] Sister Caroline [other notes after]

Pdf p.160
No. 548 William Hood, Dke of Wellington, on board, 2 March 1835, Mary Hood, 42 Granby St, Devonport, Sole Wife & Ex’r, 9 April 1835, Ex’r JI, Case 533/1865

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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #286 on: Thursday 18 August 16 17:36 BST (UK) »
Hello Goughy, dobfarm, Bumblebee and All

Been looking at HOOD Gateshead Baptisms around the time of this George Hood 1786 Gateshead Baptism:-

 ... Geo S. of John Hood

Three Hood Baptisms at Gateshead apparently, are:-

http://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/NewSearch.php?q=1&cookiecheck=1

Gateshead 1786 George Hood [matches our George Hood's age at his 1815 marriage]
Gateshead 1792 Sarah Hood, possible marriages 1811 Chester Le Street, or 8 May 1814 Marr at Newcastle to Thomas Gibson.
Gateshead 1805 Eliza Hood, possible marriage 1826 Newcastle?
Gateshead 1810 Thomas Hood

(Also found Eliza Hood, Ryton, Durham, baptism, 13 March 1805, but Durham is some distance South of Gateshead)

If the Gateshead 1786 Baptism is our George Hood and the 1792 ; 1805 and 1810 baptisms had the same father and were his siblings, it should give us sideways relatives to George Hood of Selby later, to try and match up?

EDIT: Sarah's baptism 1792 & Rebecca Hood's 1st Oct 1810 burial give her age as 23, birth about 1787 and both were daughters of Francis Hood.

Thanks

Kind regards, Mark

EDIT: There are also Gateshead Burials in:-
1810 for Rebecca Hood, born abt 1787
1821 for Eleanor Hood, born abt 1809

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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #287 on: Thursday 18 August 16 19:08 BST (UK) »
(Also found Eliza Hood, Ryton, Durham, baptism, 13 March 1805, but Durham is some distance South of Gateshead)

Ryton is about 10 miles West of Gateshead (used to be in County Durham but now Tyne and Wear (used to work in the Gateshead area) 
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