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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #207 on: Wednesday 22 June 16 14:45 BST (UK) »
I've responded on the post
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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #208 on: Thursday 23 June 16 00:03 BST (UK) »
Thank you Everyone who Assisted and/or looked up information so far.

I feel that we might be a little further forward in cracking this.

See
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=750788.0

Originally, it seemed that there was no early 18th Century forward HOOD, surviving male line, to link up from the early 18th Century Hood Surgeons at Selby, to either John Hood (buried Selby 4 April 1819, aged 82) of Selby and George Hood of Selby.

In The POLL For The City of York, 1741. is a John Hood, Barber, Place of Abode Rawcliffe.

My father told me that historically, a Barber was a Surgeon and that was why old Hairdressers (Barbers) used to display the Red and White (usually in a spiral) cylinder sign, outside and it denoted 'Blood and Bandages'.

The early half of the 18th Century Selby Parish transcriptions, seemed to have no Hood male line, to go forward, Matthew Hood, Chirurgus of Selby dying 1717, Roger Hood of Selby dying and Samuel Hood, Barber and Surgeon of Selby buried Thorganby in 1737.

However, the 1741 Poll book indicates there was a John Hood, Barber, still alive in 1741 at Rawcliffe and John Hood, buried Selby April 1819 at 82 years of age is old enough, to be the son of the Rawcliffe Barber of 1741.

Goughy has found the following Apprenticeship for John Hood son of Elizabeth Hood of Selby, in 1718:-

October 1718 29.  2. John Herbert of Wensley, Yorke, Barber, Chirurgeon, John son of Eliz: Hood of Selby, York, 16 Sept 1718

Got some more research to do in Yorkshire, but John Hood, Barber of Rawcliffe in the 1741 Poll book (eligible to vote), read with Goughy's Apprentice find, is looking promising, as the possible missing link, from the early 18th Century Selby Hoods, in the Selby Parish Register?

Thank you all and kind regards, Mark

EDIT: Found a 1745 Apprenticeship, with John Hood of Rocliffe, Do. [Do. = City of York] Barber, as the Master, posted on the link (above).

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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #209 on: Wednesday 29 June 16 22:10 BST (UK) »
Hello dobfarm

For information, it seems you were onto some with:-

"John Hood aged 25 married Elizabeth Leppington aged 26 on the 8th Dec 1763 Scarborough aged 25" in relation to Maudland Hood, at least.

I have seen both the Marriage Allegation/Intention and Bond dated :-

Marriage Intention dated 6th day of December 1763

John Hood of the Parish of Scarborough in the County of York ... That he is of the Age of twenty five Years ... and a Batchelor and intends to marry Elizabeth Leppington of Scarborough aforesaid aged 26 Years ... and a Widow

Bond
Know all Men by these Presents, That we John Hood of Scarborough in the County of York Mariner ...

So Elizabeth Leppington was a Widow and very likely the same, Elizabeth Spencer when she married Leppington

Looks like you got the lineage for Elizabeth dau of John Spencer married to John Hood of Selby, Mariner (parents to Maudland Hood).

Thanks and  kind regards Mark

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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #210 on: Thursday 30 June 16 09:29 BST (UK) »
Did the Bond allegation in 1763  to Elizabeth Leppington give John Hood's occupation -usually given on the top of same page with  the Bondsmans name and Bondsmans occupation.


I still think John Hood (burial 1819 Selby aged 82 = b 1737) that George Hood (death 1845) Selby was a grandson of John Hood with a generation father  of George Hood missing. That son would have had to have been born 1763 to 1766- ish to marry and have son  George Hood born circa 1786
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth


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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #211 on: Tuesday 05 July 16 10:35 BST (UK) »
Hood's other side of the river Ouse 18th Century near Selby

I found this link in the National archives 'discovery' section

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/523bae27-70a6-42bd-aad5-74cfa35cede8

Snippet _ Tristram Hood Witnesses: William Thompson, George Young and William Gibson

Known early George Hood info in Selby

Though John Hood buried 1819 aged 82 est born  1737  Selby lived where George Hood died 1845 Selby trade cooper at marriage 1815 Selby- there has been nothing evidence wise found so far to connect them plus John Hood's age at death suggests John Hood b1737 little old to be George's father.

pre 1812 George Hood - 1807 info has Richard Gibson the Cooper Wren lane

George Hood Cooper Wren lane 1818 trade directory with wife Sarah (Russel) a straw hat maker.

Documents of R Gibson Bankruptcy, sale/transfer or death of R Gibson of the Cooper business to George Hood or property rental records of the business in solicitors records - London or York ('s) 

George Hood a Copper (With Business knowledge and with a small wealth in his own right ??)

In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #212 on: Tuesday 05 July 16 11:48 BST (UK) »
Hello dobfarm

Thanks, William Gibson was a Witness, but witnesses are sometimes good friends, or related.

Last day, I was exhausted due to mental concentration (punch drunk) and was not very well the following day.

John Hood of the Parish of Scarborough Mariner to Elizabeth Leppington, Widow, Dec 1763
In answer to your last but one post, I did state the Alleg/Bond for John Hood aged 25, Batchelor, was a Mariner and Elizabeth Leppington, of Scarborough aforesaid, aged 26 and a Widow.

Earlier John Hood of Scarborough Mariner - Marriage Alleg/Bond 1759
There was a second John Hood Mariner of Scarborough Alleg/Bond (earlier), 8th September 1759, for a John Hood aged 37 Batchelor to marry Elizabeth Hood of the same place aged 21 and a Spinster, his Bondsman was John Cornforth of Scarborough, Parish Clerk. I had already found the Marriage Register entry, so interesting to get more detail.

Signatures
Although the 1759 John Hood signature is more fancy than the 1763 signature, neither seem to match each other, or the Jon. Hood signature, a Widower of Scarborough, Mariner, 17 August 1778 to Sarah Hammond Widow, London Marriage Bond.

Tristram Hood
I wanted to see, including Tristram Hood's 1735 Will and 1741 Admin 2 ...

Tristram Hood July 1735, York, Vol.84, fol.96 and
Tristram Hood Nov 1741, York, Admin 2, (MF1209 noted for Admin 2)

as I knew he was linked to York and Hemingbrough, close to Selby.

But, I was not thinking straight and perhaps missed vital info re Tristram Hood?

Regards Mark

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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #213 on: Tuesday 05 July 16 12:48 BST (UK) »
Tristram Hood July 1735, York, Vol.84, fol.96 and
Tristram Hood Nov 1741, York, Admin 2, (MF1209 noted for Admin 2)

From Parish Records

Tristrum Hood buried 3 July 1735 York, St Sampson Occupation blacksmith
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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #214 on: Tuesday 05 July 16 12:49 BST (UK) »
Your health is what matters in order of importance more than a passion for knowing about George's history at the moment.  :)
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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #215 on: Wednesday 06 July 16 09:15 BST (UK) »
Hood's other side of the river Ouse 18th Century near Selby

I found this link in the National archives 'discovery' section

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/523bae27-70a6-42bd-aad5-74cfa35cede8

Snippet _ Tristram Hood Witnesses: William Thompson, George Young and William Gibson

Known early George Hood info in Selby

Though John Hood buried 1819 aged 82 est born  1737  Selby lived where George Hood died 1845 Selby trade cooper at marriage 1815 Selby- there has been nothing evidence wise found so far to connect them plus John Hood's age at death suggests John Hood b1737 little old to be George's father.

pre 1812 George Hood - 1807 info has Richard Gibson the Cooper Wren lane

George Hood Cooper Wren lane 1818 trade directory with wife Sarah (Russel) a straw hat maker.

Documents of R Gibson Bankruptcy, sale/transfer or death of R Gibson of the Cooper business to George Hood or property rental records of the business in solicitors records - London or York ('s) 

George Hood a Copper (With Business knowledge and with a small wealth in his own right ??)

Hello All

Already searched newspapers (although some OCR scanning is not good) for Gibson; Cooper and Selby, but no advert for the Cooper business, circa 1807 to 1812, only Gibsons Bankruptcy L.G. entries as previously discussed.

The Wren Lane premises were rented by George Hood to begin (1812 per Land Tax) and one of George Hood's later aquisitions at Auction in 1835.

Reg'd in 1836, those involved in the Sale of the Wren Lane premises were:-

the Lease made or expressed to be made Between the
Right Honourable William Henry Francis Lord Petre and the Honourable Henry Charles Howard commonly called the Earl of Surrey and the Honourable Edward Robert Petre late of Stapleton Park in the County of York but now residing at Brussels of the one part and George Hood of Selby in the County of York Brewer of the other part
and the Release made or expressed to be made Between the said
William Henry Francis Lord Petre and Henry Charles Earl of Surrey of the first part
the said Edward Robert Petre of the second part and
Charles Henry Pigot of Great Marlborough Street in the County of Middlesex Gentleman of the third part
the said George Hood of the fourth part
William Mafrey of Selby aforesaid Merchant of the fifth part
Edward White of Great Marlborough Street aforesaid Gentleman of the sixth part and
Jonathan Hutchinson of Selby aforesaid Merchant of the seventh part
of and concerning all those two Dwellinghouses or tenements situate in Selby aforesaid in certain streets called Wren Lane and Micklegate ... .

[Property then described] ... adjoining thereto containing by recent survey ... heretofore in the occupation of Richard Gibson and Thomas Holliday but now of George Hood and his Undertenants and of John Green having premises of William Hood on or towards the southeast the said street called Micklegate ... [adjacent premises and people named]

It seems, that when purchasing a property back then, by a 'Lease and Release' type of property transfer (rather than a Sale by 'Conveyance'), the purchaser (in this case George Hood) appears in both the Release and the Lease documents? The margin description is Petre and Others to Hood

I would much prefer to be reading a Sale by Conveyance, than a Lease and Release sale document, but George Hood of Selby Brewer was the purchaser.

I am aware there are some Lord Petre Manor of Selby records at Hull and Essex. Someone has mentioned, one Petre was from Bradford.

Regards Mark