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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #171 on: Sunday 08 May 16 17:48 BST (UK) »
Hello All

Been looking at the John Hood of Pickering in the County of York Bleacher and Jane Marshall, York Marriage Bond, dated 28 March 1765.

It said he was a Bleacher, so this John Hood was probably the same as the John Hood at Middleton in 1807:-

Middleton, John Hood, a bleacher (1807 Poll Book - Pickering Lythe)

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=grUHAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA302&lpg=PA302&dq=Middleton,+John+Hood+bleacher+1807&source=bl&ots=3LZbyaI7mG&sig=OxuQiWGIEa15q34_75h7iHZOBa8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiX4vyWhsrMAhUlKsAKHWZAAjcQ6AEIHTAB

A Small Hood / Selby find but nothing to get excited about (but gives more detail to the Selby Land Tax John Hood entry of 1802)

Spencer to Hembrough Indenture of Lease and Release 8 & 9th Days of October 1802.

Between John Spencer of Selby in the County of York Gentleman of the one part and Thomas Hembrough of the same place Yeoman of the other part ...
Concerning all that Messuage now used as two Dwelling Houses or Tenements with the Garth Garden or Orchard and other the premises thereto belonging situate lying and being Selby aforesaid in a certain Street there called Millgate and now in the Tenures or Occupations of John Hood and Robat Nicholson or their undertenants Together with all and Singular houses outhouses edifices buildings ways waters watercourses walls party walls easements profits advantages hereditaments and appurtenances whatsoever to the said Messuage Dwelling houses or Tenements and premises belonging or in any wise appertaining except the common right belonging to the said Messuage or Dwellinghouses which is now allotted to the said John Spencer and intended to be awarded to him and his Heirs ...

Comment, I get the feeling that this would be the house of John Hood the Mariner in Millgate, Selby. Sadly no reference, nor link to George. However, a word of caution, although John Hood was shown as the Land Tax payer (online), this document refers to possible Undertenants, so one, or both occupiers could be sub-letting. However, Jane wife of John Hood of Selby mariner is buried at Selby on 15 August 1803, aged 65, in the Selby Churchyard, suggesting they were Selby based.

The John Spencer of Selby, Gentleman is possibly the one who died at Selby in 1809 and if so, the one mentioned in the 1810 Will Abstract and linked to John Spencer of Conisbrough Park.

Regards Mark
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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #172 on: Sunday 15 May 16 11:14 BST (UK) »
Hello dobfarm, Goughy, Bumblebee and All

George Hood's 1815 signature, is obviously someone who writes well. George's dealings suggest he is shrewd, organised and educated.

Looking at apprenticeship lists.

Yorkshire Cemetery Companies
I am enquiring about some others:-

The first trial burial at Hull General Cemetery Company, was after George Hood's September 1845 death.
York Cemetery (private company) has been checked.
The list of Leeds burials from 'Calverley Lad' seem to include Hoods in the Leeds Company Cemetery, but my George (1845) and widow not listed.
Sheffield and Rotherham to check.

Regarding the following, my father feels, that we would know if connected, although little was passed down, due to his father dying in 1940 and his Grandfather two years later:-

The chap who had the William Hood of Selby documents 1870 to 1895 has sent me this:-

Hood of Airmyn Hall, Goole
An "Assent" document of 1908, Executors of the Late Francis Wheler Viscount Hood, witnessed at the Buckingham Palace Hotel S.W.

The Assent is signed by Edith Lydia Drummond Hood (witnessed by Dorothy V Hood of The Manor House [?] Sussex, Spinster) and Alexander Frederick Hood (witnessed by Sibill Hood of Airmyn Hall, Goole) of Airmyn Hall, Goole in the County of York.

There are also references to Grosvenor Arthur Alexander Hood now Viscount Hood and another witness, a representative Captain Victor Napier Ward.

I've wondered for a long time if George came to Selby from the Navy, or if he was illegitimate of some family.

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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #173 on: Sunday 15 May 16 12:00 BST (UK) »
Outside royal title status

Viscount in England - a sheriff. = upperclass posh
  ??? related to a working lower class
a barrel maker, joiner, carpenter, woodworker come blacksmith = Cooper - a trademan/busnessman who works with his hands. ? in less than fifty years

Sometimes maids got pregnant by the master of a posh house-illegitimate like, maybe worth a look at  and would explain difference in status of George Hood.

Would explain George's very rich wealth in George's own will in later years being 1845 originating from a will of a illegit posh father Hood
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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #174 on: Sunday 15 May 16 13:51 BST (UK) »
Mark

This website  http://www.howdenshirehistory.co.uk/goole/hood-gregory-airmyn.html  is a local historian Sue Butler who has a wealth of knowledge of East Riding of Yorkshire.(Howden, Goole, Snaith)

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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #175 on: Sunday 15 May 16 15:29 BST (UK) »
Mark

This website  http://www.howdenshirehistory.co.uk/goole/hood-gregory-airmyn.html  is a local historian Sue Butler who has a wealth of knowledge of East Riding of Yorkshire.(Howden, Goole, Snaith)

Goughy

Hello Goughy and dobfarm and All

Thank you.

There is a chap online who claims to be related to Matthew Hood a Surgeon, buried in Selby Abbey in 1717.

I am wondering if he has traced his line bypassing my George Hood, possibly using a side-ways Hood relation?

He has visited the graves and places (not necessarily in this order) of:-

Christopher Bacon, Gent: who was buried the 4th Day of 8ber 1679 and likewise the body of Beatrix Bacon his Relict who departed this life on the 25th O May 172[?] [??stone damaged??] Year Of Her Age [Christofer Bacon Selby Transcriptions 4th October 1679].
Matthew Hood 1717, aged 59 and wife Elizabeth Hood's grave 1732 at Selby.
William Walker's 1811 grave, died 5th April, aged 32 at Selby.

Howden Minster [Definitely Hoods here historically].
Hemingbrough St Mary.
Hemingbrough, (a photo mentioning "History of Hemingbrough" by T. Burton Esq of Turnham Hall).
St Oswald at Hotham.
St Helen Auckland.
Picture taken on the Moor near Stanhope [Part of the Spencer family was from Stanhope].
Corbridge.

He also has the 4 following Robinson graves photographed amongst his collection of photos online:-
Headstone
Charles Robinson late of Etherley[?] who died August 12:1816 Aged 49 years
Also Pheby[picture pixilating] Wife of the above Who
died 1837 Aged 6 [3 or 8?]
And of Hannah Robinson
Wife of Christopher Robinson of
[?] Auckland and who departed this life
November 1846[?] Aged [5?2?] years.

Headstone
In Memory of Elizabeth Robinson.
Wife of Rohert Robinson[?] [pic pixillating] of West Auc
-kland who died January ??th
[other Robinson names]

Headstone
Nicholas Robinson
[remainder unreadable]

Headstone
John Young Robson
Son of John   Ann Robson
[of  ??unreadable??]
Who died March 2[?]1[?] 1834
Aged 2 years
Also William Robson
[lines underneath too small to see on reduced resolution photo]

Apparently they had something recorded "in paper" now lost.

Re William Walker, the Leeds Mercury 13 April 1811 ...
Yesterday se'nnight, after a short illness, Mr Wm. Walker of Selby, a trustee of the Selby Marine Association.

Seems this chap online, claims to be linked to HOOD of Selby via Robinson / Robson?

Thanks, Kind regards, Mark

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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #176 on: Sunday 15 May 16 18:20 BST (UK) »
Hello All

Been looking at The History and Antiquities of the Parish of Hemingbrough in the County of York By Thomas Burton Esq., of Turnham Hall (1888) which is full of Robinson family references.

There is a reference to Samuel Hood and Byard. [Matthew Hood of Selby (buried Selby Abbey 1717) had married Elizabeth Byard].

22nd Nov. 1715. Samuel Henson of Wistow. " To my dear and loving wife all my land at Sikehouse, to her and her heirs, and all my personal estate, paying to my dear child, Mary Henson, 600 l. when 21. To my kinswoman, Mary Cousins, 20 l." And now comes an extraordinary bequest : "The rest of my real estate at Bonwith, Cotingworth, Storwood Park, and Darbyshire, to my wife for her life ; but if my dau. Mary happen to marry before she be 21, then I give her all my reall estate, and disposall, if fourteen yeares (of age), shall be good in law as though she was at full age; but if she dye before she marry, all my reall estate to Samuel Hood, Wm. Byard, and Byard Rawson. My wife ex."

 ... "26th August, 1742. Mary Henson, of the City of York, widow." ...

https://archive.org/stream/heminbrough00burt
Page 205

There are references to Bacon and Clark, p.205.

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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #177 on: Sunday 15 May 16 22:18 BST (UK) »
Something to research

Based on possible scenario of known linking surnames, dates of interest and a port of Hull

Gibson the Cooper Wren lane Selby

George son of Hannah Gibson of Cottingham (Hull area) (illegitimate) bapt 1786 father ? ( Hood ? )

Jno  Hood father Robt  —  Hull, Holy Trinity  bapt  1739 (possible John Hood mariner buried 1819 aged 82 (born 1737)  Selby

Land tax - owner property Micklegate, J Spencer his son lived in Cottingham - occupier Mr J Hood

Micklegate crosses Wren Lane Selby
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« Reply #178 on: Monday 16 May 16 09:14 BST (UK) »
Something to research

Based on possible scenario of known linking surnames, dates of interest and a port of Hull

Gibson the Cooper Wren lane Selby

George son of Hannah Gibson of Cottingham (Hull area) (illegitimate) bapt 1786 father ? ( Hood ? )
...

Land tax - owner property Micklegate, J Spencer his son lived in Cottingham - occupier Mr J Hood
...


Thank you, an interesting theory about Gibson.

When I got the 1802 / 1803 deed copy, the house John Hood was occupying was in Millgate, Selby. Certainly looks more like Millgate, Selby.

You have a son of J. Spencer living at Cottingham, but are you also saying a J. Hood, was also occupying at Cottingham?

If there is some connection with Hood to Gibson, Hull Packet 5 Feb 1828 ... On the 31st ult. Mr J. Gibson, of Selby, gent, aged 63.

I'll check if there is a Will. I've got a few surnames, including some more Hoods. My thoughts in the last week, are back to Wills again.

Thanks and kind regards, Mark

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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #179 on: Monday 16 May 16 10:28 BST (UK) »
I've rephrased the statement

from----- Land tax - owner property Micklegate, J Spencer his son lived in Cottingham - occupier Mr J Hood
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to ----- land tax Selby property owner J Spencer, occupier J Hood (or Mr Hood)- J Spencer's son lived in Cottingham

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Will have to check if any bastardry order bonds or QS orders in Beverley or Hull archives, seeing if any survived for Cottingham year 1786/1787 for an illegitimate fathers surname of George Gibson bapt 1786 Cottingham

It a very long shot but a lot good ingredients are there in the theory pie
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